5 Replies Latest reply: Dec 3, 2012 12:47 PM by kcstudio
benjigordon Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

hi. i have a Bus with Kicks, Snares and Perc and i want to bounce the individual elements but without loosing the Bus FX.

 

if i bounce separately then the compression is not the same as the other elements are muted.

 

this means when you put them back together after as bounced audio files they sound different.

 

is there anyway of doing this?


MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
  • 1. Re: Bouncing and separating a Bus Channel
    kcstudio Level 4 Level 4 (1,625 points)

    The sound in the bus is a product of all sends interacting with each other. The mix functionality of the plugins and the bus combined are the sound you consequently get to hear. This sound will always be entirely different when you process the sends individually and play them back together afterwards.

    What are you trying to do anyway, if I may ask?

     

    Have a nice day!

  • 2. Re: Bouncing and separating a Bus Channel
    seeren Level 4 Level 4 (3,050 points)

    In theory this might work:

    Create a send on all relevant channels to an unused bus, set the levels to 0.0 (the actual amount will be determined by the fader & any volume automation).  Set the output of the channels you don't want to bounce to "no output," as well as on the corresponding AUX channel that was created for the new bus (you could also just delete the AUX).  On the compressor that is on the summed channel, set its side-chain to listen to the new bus.  Now this compressor is listening and reacting to all drums, yet the only sound passing through is the one channel you have not changed to "no output."

     

    I'd be curious if this would pass a null test, but won't be able to test myself for several days.

  • 3. Re: Bouncing and separating a Bus Channel
    kcstudio Level 4 Level 4 (1,625 points)

    Sereen, this looks very convincing and very logical and in theory it should work. But I would not bet on it.  Never ever will it sound the same. The resulting energy of the tracks mixed together is different. So you are right in respect to coming near the original, but when you A-B the difference will be obvious.

    Nicely thought though!

     

    Cheers!

  • 4. Re: Bouncing and separating a Bus Channel
    benjigordon Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    na it doesnt work. ive tried it.

     

    its very frustrating as i simply want to keep the sound of the bus compression without changing the sound.

     

    there MUST be a way of separating the sound out...

  • 5. Re: Bouncing and separating a Bus Channel
    kcstudio Level 4 Level 4 (1,625 points)

    The method Sereen pointed out gives you the separation, that's not the problem. Mixing the tracks together again, aiming for an identical sound, is.

    You'll have to glue them together applying some sort of processing......

     

    Good luck!