13 Replies Latest reply: Dec 4, 2012 12:52 PM by living the dream in Montana
living the dream in Montana Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I've got a 350 G library on an external drive.  It's nicely organized into files and projects.  I want to put these images on my MBP internal hard drive, and duplicate their organization, but only as referenced images to avoid taking up unnecessary space.  Seems like it should be easy enough, but I can't seem to get it done. 

Do I start with Aperture open with the library on the external hard drive and export the images as referenced files, or start with the library on the MBP and import images as referenced files

I know there is a ton written about this, and I've consulted Aperture Manual but still can't figure it out.

 

Any help greatly appreciated!

 

S


MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
  • 1. Re: creating a referenced library
    William Lloyd Level 6 Level 6 (19,355 points)

    The library goes where you put it.  Use the relocate masters command from within Aperture to move the files.

  • 2. Re: creating a referenced library
    living the dream in Montana Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Guess I'm still confused.  Seems like I don't want to relocate the originals, they're on the external drive I want them on, I just want to make referenced files from tnem to have on my MBP drive.

  • 3. Re: creating a referenced library
    Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (23,830 points)

    So you want to move the orignals to the internal drive of the MBP and keep the library on the external drive?

  • 4. Re: creating a referenced library
    living the dream in Montana Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    If by originals you mean the master images then no,  I want them to stay on the external hard drive and have only their referenced images on the MBPinternal drive.

  • 5. Re: creating a referenced library
    Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (23,830 points)

    So you want the library on the internal drive and the masters on the external?

  • 6. Re: creating a referenced library
    William Lloyd Level 6 Level 6 (19,355 points)

    This doesn't make sense.  Referenced in Aperture has a very specific meaning.  It means the images themselves are not contained within the Aperture library package itself.  It is the alternative to "managed" masters where the originals are within the Aperture library (and thus able to be backed up by Aperture's vault).

     

    If stuff is working already, but you want to move the location of the referenced files, again you would use Aperture's "relocate originals" to do so.

  • 7. Re: creating a referenced library
    living the dream in Montana Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yes, I think...Seems from what I've read it's the best way to handle large libraries.

  • 8. Re: creating a referenced library
    Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (23,830 points)

    An ok then  as William has written the command to use is Relocate Masters.

     

    With the library still on the external drive run Relocate masters to turn them into referenced masters. You will be able to create the folder structure you want for the masters when you run the command.

     

    Once the command is finished and your library is running with the referenced masters you can copy the library to the internal MBP drive.

     

    The library should still see the masters on the external drive and you should be good to go. However in the slight chance that Aperture is unable to locate the referenced masters on the external drive you will need to reconnect them using Locate Referenced files.

     

    I would read up on both these commands in the user manual before starting out. And make sure you have a backup of the original library just in case.

     

    regards

  • 9. Re: creating a referenced library
    living the dream in Montana Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Seems to work,  seems cumbersumb that I can only get the Relocate Originals to come up when I select at the projects level.  Is there a way I could get the whole library to go in one swoop?

  • 10. Re: creating a referenced library
    living the dream in Montana Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Some success and some set backs.

    I couldn't get Aperture to let me select folders, so I put all my pics in a single Project and had Aperture create a library on my MBP drive and store the original files on the external drive. 

    The problem is that none of my organizational hiearchy did not transfer over and now I've got 22,000 images in a single project.

    Should I try to restore the orginals to the library and try again this time hopefully duplicating the hiearchy or atleast making another;

    or should I take the project I've successfully created a referenced library, and just build a new file structure from that.

     

    Thanks

  • 11. Re: creating a referenced library
    Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (23,830 points)

    Just select al the images you want to have referenced masters for and run the Relocate Original command. If you want all the images in your library to have referenced masters then select all the images in your library.

     

    Relocate original works on images not  projects.

  • 12. Re: creating a referenced library
    Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (23,830 points)

    Why did you create a new library? I thought you wanted to make the masters in your current library referenced and then copy the current library over to the MBP.

     

    If that is not want you wanted then you need to post back becaue the steps I recommended were for doing just that.

     

    regards

  • 13. Re: creating a referenced library
    living the dream in Montana Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Well, not sure exactly what I did. 

    I do know this.  I now have an Aperture Library on my external hard drive.  In that library is a Project that has 14,000 pics marked as referenced files.  Their original files are located on same external hard drive under a different folder.

    The wierd thing is, the same library contains Projects that contain their own master images!

     

    Not sure if it helps but,

    Size of the Library buy itself is 151 G

    Size of the Folder where original images reside is 201 G.

     

    So I'm thinking I've created a Library containing referenced files and non referenced files.

    The good news is all my files are accessible.

    The bad is that for the 14,000 referenced files, there is no organization.

     

    Any thoughts on how I should proceed are welcomed.