Currently Being ModeratedDec 1, 2012 1:16 AM (in response to Pieter J.)
The iphone5 and LTE it's exactly the same if you bought a car and you can use the 5'gear only if you go to a specific fuel pump !
The LTE is impleted in the iphone, but apple restricted the usage with carrier limitation.
Here in Europe, a complaint to "Union europeene" for restricting of liberty of usage" (restriction à la libre concurrence et utilisation in french) must resolve this problem...
Currently Being ModeratedDec 1, 2012 6:03 AM (in response to Pieter J.)
You know folks,
If AAPL stock keeps dropping like it did the last 6 months, I'm sure they'll get a tiny bit more 'customer friendly' in the future;)
Currently Being ModeratedDec 1, 2012 6:19 AM (in response to bollegijz)
I believe that's the result of a lack of innovation during the past years.
Even Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak suggests that Microsoft is currently more innovative than Apple:
Currently Being ModeratedDec 2, 2012 8:04 AM (in response to modular747)
Funny to see people quoting a guy who hasn't innovated anything in decades on how innovating Apple is at the moment. The truth is that Woz doesn't know what the secret projects of Apple are. and if you look at the history of Apple you will see they don't innovate on a yearly basis not even on a 2 year basis. What are the innovations that Apple made in the last decade? A user friendly mp3 player, a user friendly smartphone and the first tablet that works. Just 3 innovations in 10 years and the last one was only 2 years ago.
Back on topic: I think it's a good thing that Apple forces carriers to deliver quality services to customers. Now we know what the real problem is: Belgacom has an inferior LTE network.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 2, 2012 8:05 AM (in response to Pieter J.)
So one can only judge about innovation when one innovates himself? That's a strange point of view.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 2, 2012 8:07 AM (in response to bollegijz)
Did I say that? That's not what I said. I just say that you don't have to take those people all that serious.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 2, 2012 8:41 AM (in response to Pieter J.)
I'm not taking you too serious either, Sebastien. No worries there.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 2, 2012 8:44 AM (in response to bollegijz)
Phew! I was already afraid you would start quoting me.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 3, 2012 3:28 AM (in response to Pieter J.)
Hi all. It seems there's an operator or two in this thread. Now that the cat's out of the bag regarding Apple testing LTE networks before activating it, does anybody want to share their experience of dealing with Apple? I've just got off the phone with one carrier who's having a tough time trying to get Apple to come test his LTE network. Does anybody know anything about the application process for this? Perhaps there's a queue?
We knew about Apple testing networks for some time, but all certified carriers have signed NDAs to not talk about it. We just had to wait for someone to break the NDA. So I'm wondering if there's any carriers out there that haven't yet signed such a contract but have already started discussions?
Currently Being ModeratedDec 3, 2012 11:36 AM (in response to Pieter J.)
KiltedTim, many people install beta software without being bound by a non-disclosure agreement, because they bought a UDID registration somewhere. So the only thing I would like to know, is if LTE works for Proximus with the latest beta or not. Also, there is nothing about "unreleased software" in the Apple Support Communities Use Agreement.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 3, 2012 11:36 AM (in response to JoskeVermeulen)
Those people do so illegally, and discussing it here is STILL a violation of the TOS. Don't believe it? Then why did the original post askin this question get deleted?
Currently Being ModeratedDec 3, 2012 11:51 AM (in response to KiltedTim)
It is removed because Apple is applying communist practises on this matter. Please copy/paste the part the Apple Support Communities Use Agreement that says it's a violation.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 3, 2012 12:07 PM (in response to JoskeVermeulen)
1. Stay on topic. Apple Support Communities is here to help people use Apple products and technologies more effectively. Unless otherwise noted, do not add Submissions about nontechnical topics, including:
1. Speculations or rumors about unannounced products.
There has been no announcement or public statement made by Apple regarding any unreleased version(s) of iOS.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 3, 2012 12:30 PM (in response to KiltedTim)
iPhone is the product, iOS is the software on the product. iPhone 5 is not an unannounced product. Now go do something useful with your life.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 3, 2012 12:44 PM (in response to JoskeVermeulen)
Go debate the definition of "product" with someone who cares what you think. The fact is, discussing unreleased software here is forbidden and such discussions will be deleted by the moderators.