10 Replies Latest reply: Dec 8, 2012 11:10 AM by Terence Devlin
Ralphjh Level 2 Level 2 (205 points)

I am currently using iPhoto 5 as a container for photos used within a Final Cut Express project. Because iPhoto 5 is a PPC file, it is necessary to boot into an OS 10.6 Snow Leopard volume to open the iPhoto 5 file. If I upgrade the file to iPhoto 8, it will convert the file and the result will have all of its content within a “package” instead of a Finder folder and Final Cut will not be able to access the photos.

 

How do I make the photos contained within the iPhoto 8 “package” to be visible to any other application which uses “pointers” to the photos contained within?


MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8), iPhone 5
  • 1. Re: iPhoto 5 vs iPhoto 8
    LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (56,670 points)
    If I upgrade the file to iPhoto 8, it will convert the file [SIC] -

     

    Yes it will convert the library to the new format - note {the iPHoto library is in a folder - not a file}

     

     

    the result will have all of its content within a “package” instead of a Finder folder

     

    yes

     

    Final Cut will not be able to access the photos.

     

    No - you have full access to the contents of the  iPhoto library from any program

    See this user tip for full access information - https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-4491

     

    LN

  • 2. Re: iPhoto 5 vs iPhoto 8
    Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (123,800 points)

    If you're working with FCE then you'll need to export the shots from iPhoto to the Finder.

     

    Might be time to upgrade that too...

  • 3. Re: iPhoto 5 vs iPhoto 8
    Ralphjh Level 2 Level 2 (205 points)

    HI Larry, thanks for the response.

    LarryHN wrote:

     

    If I upgrade the file to iPhoto 8, it will convert the file [SIC] -

     

    Yes it will convert the library to the new format - note {the iPHoto library is in a folder - not a file}

     

    Yes, I knew that. I mispoke, calling it a file. The net result after upgrading is a "package" which looks like a file. Final Cut Express, which has pointers to my photos within the original iPhoto Library folder, cannot see inside of the package. Therein lies the basis for my question.

     

     

    LarryHN wrote:

     

    Final Cut will not be able to access the photos.

     

    No - you have full access to the contents of the  iPhoto library from any program

    See this user tip for full access information - https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-4491

     

    The above reference, doesn't seem to address automatic access to other programs such as FCE.  Unless I missed something, it seems to only cover user actions, either from the Finder or from within an Application.

     

    Ralph

  • 4. Re: iPhoto 5 vs iPhoto 8
    Ralphjh Level 2 Level 2 (205 points)

    Terence Devlin wrote:

     

    If you're working with FCE then you'll need to export the shots from iPhoto to the Finder.

     

    I thought of that but the iPhoto library contains several thousand photos used by FCE (It's a large project). It would be a nightmare to reconnect all of the photos from the Finder. It is much easier booting into an OS 10.6 volume and using the iPhoto 5 library, although that is a bit of a nuisance.

     

    Might be time to upgrade that too...

     

    I didn't get that. Upgrade what?

     

    Ralph

  • 5. Re: iPhoto 5 vs iPhoto 8
    Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (123,800 points)

    FCE to FCPX, which works with a media browser, and so the problem doesn't arise...

  • 6. Re: iPhoto 5 vs iPhoto 8
    Ralphjh Level 2 Level 2 (205 points)

    Terence Devlin wrote:

     

    FCE to FCPX, which works with a media browser, and so the problem doesn't arise...

     

    If I had simply kept my photos in a Finder folder, the problem wouldn't have arisen either. I had gotten into the habit of using iPhoto and iMovie as containers for media referenced by FCE and Apple let me down by removing a feature that I depended upon. Apple should have at least provided a method of converting my older projects to use with the newer software.

     

    Regarding FCPX, there is enough controversy about its benefits thats makes me want to stay away, at least for now. Do you use it much? If so , what are your impressions?

     

    Ralph

  • 7. Re: iPhoto 5 vs iPhoto 8
    LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (56,670 points)

    If I had simply kept my photos in a Finder folder, the problem wouldn't have arisen either.

    Then you should choose to use a program that works that way - that is not the way iPhoto works - when you choose to use a program you accept the way it works - it is not the responsibility of the author to modify the program to meet your personal desires

     

    iPhoto is a SQLite database and as such must control its own data - if you want a file manager rather than a photo manager then there are many to choose form - iPhoto is not one of them

     

    LN

  • 8. Re: iPhoto 5 vs iPhoto 8
    Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (123,800 points)

    Well you got to know that debate was all back in 2008 or thereabouts and no, the sky didn’t fall in. I do believe (but it's a while since I used FCE) that you can move the images to a folder (File -> Export) and reconnect with them - and no, not just one by one. Have a look in your FCE manual -  search for something like reconnecting media.

     

    I'm not a pro, and as you're using Express I'm guessing you're not either   but I used FCE quite a bit on home movies and also for slideshows - multi video and audio tracks, lots of keyframing and so on -  and now I use FCPX for the same jobs - bit of a learning curve, sure, but faster and easier definitely. It's also a lot more powerful and less expensive. And yes, it integrates with iPhoto, Aperture and so on with no issues. There was a lot of controversy when it launched, sure, but it has well caught up now.

     

    Regards

     

     

    TD

  • 9. Re: iPhoto 5 vs iPhoto 8
    Ralphjh Level 2 Level 2 (205 points)

    Terence Devlin wrote:

     

    FCE to FCPX, which works with a media browser, and so the problem doesn't arise...

     

    Media browser? Does that mean FCPX stores the actual media (photos, video, audio etc) in its own project as opposed to FCE which uses pointers to the media files?

  • 10. Re: iPhoto 5 vs iPhoto 8
    Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (123,800 points)

    FCP wants to control all the assests for a project.