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  • 75. Re: Why Multiple Kernel "issues" w/G4 iMac/Tiger?
    este.el.paz Level 1 Level 1 (90 points)

    BDAqua wrote:

     

    Sorry, tyhe ports should've read the ports.

    BD dude:

     

    You must be flailing through a pile of threads so fast that you missed my smiley face . . . trying to be so obviously over the top that it had to be humor . . .  but . . . no, "the ports" . . . "the ports" is what you were trying to say . . . typing the words thrusting through cyber space, reaching out to your fellow sufferer . . . somehow it got switched to "tyhe ports" and the entire gist of what you were saying was . . . lost in translation . . . like my "Macinto, last of the fighting Seminole Chiefs" . . . also blown away by the winds of seriousness here on the forums . . . (sigh).

     

    I've been running Google searches lookiing for solutions to the "tyhe port" problem and it does seem like it is a latent problem with the Apple OSX system . . . it causes KPs, and it moves the source of the KP around, sometimes it's the FW ports, sometiimes other issues crop up that cause KPs . . . the system log sometimes will show . . . "Check your tyhe ports" . . . but only in single user through the AJ application in verbose mode . . . .  You did it man . . . problem solved . . . a slip of the typo lip and voila--solution found.

     

    !: - ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

     

    e.e.p.

  • 76. Re: Why Multiple Kernel "issues" w/G4 iMac/Tiger?
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,470 points)

    When they said who wants a warped sense of humor, I thought they said who wants a good sense of humor... and I raised my hand!

  • 77. Re: Why Multiple Kernel "issues" w/G4 iMac/Tiger?
    este.el.paz Level 1 Level 1 (90 points)

    BDAq:

     

    One last post to this thread, sort of on the same topic, but perhaps another story . . . I've tried to install applejack 1.6 on my MBPro running 10.6.8 about three times it says, "Installed successfully" . . . but when I boot into single user (command + S) . . . there is no "type applejack" in the CLI . . . and when I type "applejack AUTO shutdown" or any variation, it just returns a, "applejack is not recognized and isn't part of anything here . . . " words to that effect.  Whereas in the iMac 10.4.11 I can boot to CLI and it gives me the various options for running AJ, and I only installed it one time . . . .  Any thoughts?  Of course Onyx is always an option . . . ????

     

    e.e.p.

  • 78. Re: Why Multiple Kernel "issues" w/G4 iMac/Tiger?
    Neville Hillyer Level 4 Level 4 (1,855 points)

    The following Terminal command should list AppleJack if it is installed:

     

    sudo ls /private/var/root/Library/Scripts

  • 79. Re: Why Multiple Kernel "issues" w/G4 iMac/Tiger?
    Neville Hillyer Level 4 Level 4 (1,855 points)

    As a further check you can use the following Terminal command:

     

    sudo cat /var/root/.profile

     

    This should result in:

     

    alias applejack='/var/root/Library/Scripts/applejack.sh'     #AppleJack Installer

    echo ""     #AppleJack Installer

    echo "For troubleshooting assistance, just type 'applejack' at the prompt"     #AppleJack Installer

  • 80. Re: Why Multiple Kernel "issues" w/G4 iMac/Tiger?
    este.el.paz Level 1 Level 1 (90 points)

    Neville Hillyer wrote:

     

    The following Terminal command should list AppleJack if it is installed:

     

    sudo ls /private/var/root/Library/Scripts

    NH:

     

    Didn't see your next post until after I had run the first suggestion . . . and had to get into root account, but "applejack.sh"  was the return . . . and I ran "man applejack" and it showed me the brief manual . . . so it looks like it is installed . . . .  But still, even if I'm doing something wrong in terms of whatever, sudo password lets say, the suggested AJ blurb is not showing up in the single user CLI . . . .  I'll check your next ideas in a bit . . . .

     

    e.e.p.

  • 81. Re: Why Multiple Kernel "issues" w/G4 iMac/Tiger?
    este.el.paz Level 1 Level 1 (90 points)

    Neville Hillyer wrote:

     

    As a further check you can use the following Terminal command:

     

    sudo cat /var/root/.profile

     

    This should result in:

     

    alias applejack='/var/root/Library/Scripts/applejack.sh'     #AppleJack Installer

    echo ""     #AppleJack Installer

    echo "For troubleshooting assistance, just type 'applejack' at the prompt"     #AppleJack Installer

    Yes . . . that also was exactly what was returned . . . .  I guess I'll have to try again later??  Here in the MBPro I've got the rEFIt thing going . . . but Cmd S does get me passed that window and we go into the CLI . . . but nothing about AJ is "recognized" . . . I tried all the various terms.  Anyway, nothing to lose sleep over, it's just odd, no?  AJ is installed, but doesn't seem to be "awake" . . . .

     

    e.e.p.

  • 82. Re: Why Multiple Kernel "issues" w/G4 iMac/Tiger?
    Neville Hillyer Level 4 Level 4 (1,855 points)

    You could try the following in single user mode:

     

    sh /var/root/Library/Scripts/applejack.sh

  • 83. Re: Why Multiple Kernel "issues" w/G4 iMac/Tiger?
    este.el.paz Level 1 Level 1 (90 points)

    Neville Hillyer wrote:

     

    You could try the following in single user mode:

     

    sh /var/root/Library/Scripts/applejack.sh

    NH:

     

    Thanks very kindly for that . . . I'll give it a try, but probably later my time, PST, . . . I'll post back when I get the free moment to restart . . . .  This is one of those things where having the knowledge to connect the dots is helpful . . . I know enough to put the dot into the Terminal, but not how to connect them . . . .

     

    e.e.p.

  • 84. Re: Why Multiple Kernel "issues" w/G4 iMac/Tiger?
    Neville Hillyer Level 4 Level 4 (1,855 points)

    este.el.paz wrote:

     

    I've got the int HD partitioned and running Xu/Lu 12.0.4, the crash problem started there and that's not new, but then continued over into the OSX side.

     

    I am still of the view that this could be the cause of your difficulties.

     

    It is unlikely that the partitions interfere with each other but there are other areas which are common such as firmware - on such an old Mac this may not be strictly firmware but battery backed RAM.

     

    Some OSs use hidden disk partitions but I doubt that this is an issue here.

     

    It is perplexing that booting into single user mode does not invoke /var/root/.profile - I have never met this.

     

    Duel boot is OK as long as it works but it is difficult to know where to start when it goes wrong.

  • 85. Re: Why Multiple Kernel "issues" w/G4 iMac/Tiger?
    este.el.paz Level 1 Level 1 (90 points)

    Neville Hillyer wrote:

     

    You could try the following in single user mode:

     

    sh /var/root/Library/Scripts/applejack.sh

    Mr H:  I did run this, both in the GUI terminal, and that did show the applejack intro data, but of course suggests that doing so will break my system . . . and then booted into single user and I get the yellow "Shell" prompt, but when I run the above terms . . . it is not recognized . . . by the MBPro system.  So it looks like AJ is loaded on the 10.6.8 system, but doesn't seem to know how to use itself, yet.

     

    In terms of your last post continuing the conversation on the iMac dual boot . . . yes, it does seem like dual booting does cause some issues, but that computer was originally set up to dual boot . . . it could/can boot into OS9, OSX, or Classic . . . so adding Linux just adds a slight layer of complication to an already complicated system.  However, in trying to get the ethernet back on the Xu/Lu side, and updating the system, and trying to get some insight into fixing the system in Linux, but not getting too much feedback . . . I found a gnome-disk utility, and "smartmontools" with a GUI front, and ran some tests and it came back that it found "two bad sectors" in the HD . . . .  Still trying to see if there is a way to fix bad sectors . . . possibly through the Seagate web site there is a disc analysis program there, haven't had time to play with it, and now home phone and internet is down due to rain penetrating the copper phone lines . . . everything breaks in LA when it rains . . . .  So, anyway, are the KPs due to the bad sectors or vice versa, or is it both HD and motherboard/FW ports going bad???  I don't think dual booting burned the FW port out . . . I'm just looking at age as a factor in the comorbidities that are happening . . . .  Thanks for the thoughts.

     

    e.e.p.

  • 86. Re: Why Multiple Kernel "issues" w/G4 iMac/Tiger?
    Neville Hillyer Level 4 Level 4 (1,855 points)

    Years ago tools like Norton helped in mapping out bad parts of disks but life has moved on and now they are likely to do more harm than good.

     

    Firmware on modern disks should map these out without any user involvement.

     

    At one time I did overcome a bad scratch to a disk caused by my foolishly using a fixing screw which was too long. After much playing I was able to split it into 3 partitions - OK 1, scratch and OK 2.

     

    I do not know why single user mode does not automatically run /var/root/.profile on your Tiger but  does on my Leopard. Perhaps those at the following could explain this:

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/community/mac_os/mac_os_x_technologies?view=discus sions

  • 87. Re: Why Multiple Kernel "issues" w/G4 iMac/Tiger?
    este.el.paz Level 1 Level 1 (90 points)

    Neville Hillyer wrote:

     

    I do not know why single user mode does not automatically run /var/root/.profile on your Tiger but  does on my Leopard. Perhaps those at the following could explain this:

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/community/mac_os/mac_os_x_technologies?view=discus sions

    NH:

     

    Please keep in mind that I changed the topic of conversation from the iMac, to asking about the AJ installation on my MacBookPro running 10.6.8 . . . the AJ app works just fine on the iMac, but it's on the 10.6.8 system that AJ does not seem to be working . . . rather than starting a new thread I just extended the conversation to AJ.  Would the fact that it's 10.6.8 make any difference to how AJ will act or need to be tweaked compared to Tiger?  It does, as I said, show up in the GUI Terminal, and your first commands did show "applejack.sh" as being installed . . . but it's not working in Single User . . . .  Should I start a new thread in Sno Lepard or in the MacBookPro discussion?  It's just interesting that it shows that "installation successful" and in GUI Terminal, all of the AJ choices shows up there, but, not in Single user . . . ????  Any other neutral commands to run in Single user to test to see if that CLI is working OK??  It is responding to each item I put in, like "sudo" as being "not recognized" . . . but finally I figured out that typing "exit" is how to exit the single user shell and restart the computer . . . so that shows it is "interactive" . . . .

     

    e.e.p.

     

    e.e.p.

  • 88. Re: Why Multiple Kernel "issues" w/G4 iMac/Tiger?
    Neville Hillyer Level 4 Level 4 (1,855 points)

    este.el.paz wrote:

     

    Please keep in mind that I changed the topic of conversation from the iMac, to asking about the AJ installation on my MacBookPro running 10.6.8

     

    Sorry - missed that unexpected switch - distracted by the outbreak of humor perhaps!

     

    Whilst under normal circumstances I would advise taking it to the Snow Leopard forum I am aware that the Technology forum is followed by several people who could probably easily answer such questions.

  • 89. Re: Why Multiple Kernel "issues" w/G4 iMac/Tiger?
    este.el.paz Level 1 Level 1 (90 points)

    Neville Hillyer wrote:

     

    Whilst under normal circumstances I would advise taking it to the Snow Leopard forum I am aware that the Technology forum is followed by several people who could probably easily answer such questions.

    Thanks for that, I did post the question over there, we'll see how it is received . . . .

     

    e.e.p.

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