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lucky.lucb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

"If you organize your projects in folders in the Library inspector, you can group your projects by the folders they reside in" (Aperture 3.4 manual, p. 45, http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Aperture_3_User_Manual.pdf)

 

—> doesn't work any longer by me (nor the "by-year organization" of the projects)

 

"Year" and "Folder" buttons are ineffective by me (though not greyd)

 

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iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
  • 1. Re: "Project view" : cannot organize projects any longer (Aperture 3.4.3)
    Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,945 points)

    What happens when you select "Year" or "Folder" by clicking the icons?

    Is the search field in the upper-right corner of the border of the Projects pane clear?

    Have you closed Aperture, rebooted, and re-launched Aperture?

  • 2. Re: "Project view" : cannot organize projects any longer (Aperture 3.4.3)
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,775 points)

    Both buttons are working for me.  Your Aperture library does have folders, and contains images from different years, right?

     

    Have you done any trouble shooting? Does it work, if you create a new test library, with a few images added?

    • If you can use the buttons when browsing a different library, repair your Aperture library Aperture 3 User Manual: Repairing and Rebuilding Your Aperture Library
    • But if you cannot use the buttons even when browsing a different library, check, if your current user account has problematic setting. Log into another user account and try there. If it works there, delete your user preferences in your main account.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • 3. Re: "Project view" : cannot organize projects any longer (Aperture 3.4.3)
    lucky.lucb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    To Kirby :

    - Nothing happens when I click on the 2 buttons (even no help text appears when my mouse is on them — whereas it shows "Dissociate" when it is on the "Dissociate" button)

    - Upper-right corner search fiedl is clear

    - Close, reboot, relaunch Aperture : done, same problem

     

    To Leonie :

    - Yes my library has folders and contains images from different years

    - Same problem with different libraries, even with a new test one, especially created for the occasion

    - Still have to check any user preferences problem

     

    NB : worked perfectly with Aperture 3.3

  • 4. Re: "Project view" : cannot organize projects any longer (Aperture 3.4.3)
    lucky.lucb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    user preferences to delete : you mean the com.apple.aperture.plist files ?

  • 5. Re: "Project view" : cannot organize projects any longer (Aperture 3.4.3)
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,775 points)

    user preferences to delete : you mean the com.apple.aperture.plist files ?

    In Mountain Lion the User Library is hidden:

    You can reveal it from the Finder's "Go" menu in the main menu bar:

     

    Finder > Go

     

    Then hold down to options-key ⌥, until Library appears in the drop-down menu. Select it and open the Library.

     

    To remove Preferences, open the subfolder "Preferences", to remove the presets, look into the folder

      Application Support > Aperture

     

    Also, in Lion and Mt. Lion the process system will not necessarily quit all processes, when you quit an application. It is safer, to log off and on again, before removing files from the user library.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • 6. Re: "Project view" : cannot organize projects any longer (Aperture 3.4.3)
    lucky.lucb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    News of the day :

     

    problem not solved (still enable to get a Folder- or a Year-view of my Projects in Aperture 3.4.3, see above)

     

    - Same problem from another user account

    - Yet I try to remove the user preferences in the User/Library/ApplicationControl/Aperture folder

     

    Couldn't the problem have something to do with :

    - the com.apple.Aperture.plist and com.apple.Aperture.plist.lockfile files in the User/Library/Preferences folder ?

    - the Database folder files in the Aperture Library package (DataModelVersion.plist file for instance) ?

  • 7. Re: "Project view" : cannot organize projects any longer (Aperture 3.4.3)
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,775 points)

    We seem to be talking at crosspurposes - with removing the preferences I meant exactly the files you are asking about below - what did you remove instead?

    Couldn't the problem have something to do with :

    - the com.apple.Aperture.plist and com.apple.Aperture.plist.lockfile files in the User/Library/Preferences folder ?

    -

    And to remove the presets in /Library/Application Support/Aperture, look at the Aperture 3: Troubleshooting Basics,

     

    - the Database folder files in the Aperture Library package (DataModelVersion.plist file for instance) ?

    I do not think, that might help, since repairing and rebuilding the library did not help, and you are having exactly the same problem with other libraries, as you are saying.

     

    - Same problem from another user account

    That suggests, that removing preferences and presets in your account will be useless.

    How did you test in the different user account? WIth a new Aperture Library and all user settings as the system default setting? If yes, then this looks like a system wide problem.

     

    Have you installed any Aperture plug-ins that might be interfering? Any haxies, contextual menu items?

     

    If not, then I'd suggest to reinstall Aperture - I'd start from the original installation media and and upgrade immediately; how to reinstall on different platforms is described here: Aperture 3.4: May quit unexpectedly on launch after updating

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • 8. Re: "Project view" : cannot organize projects any longer (Aperture 3.4.3)
    lucky.lucb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    We seem to be talking at crosspurposes - with removing the preferences I meant exactly the files you are asking about below - what did you remove instead ?

    By "removing the preferences", in your 5 déc. 2012 03:10 message, it seems you meant the User/Library/Application Support/Aperture files ; I was trying to mention in addition to that User/Library/Preferences/"Aperture plist files" ; it seems to be two different things to me ; am I wrong ?

     

    Have you installed any Aperture plug-ins that might be interfering? Any haxies, contextual menu items?

     

    If not, then I'd suggest to reinstall Aperture

    Think I'm gonna do that

     

    Thanks anyway, and a lot, LeonieDF

  • 9. Re: "Project view" : cannot organize projects any longer (Aperture 3.4.3)
    lucky.lucb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You know what ?

     

    I've reinstalled on my iMac : same problem

     

    On my wife's MacBook (10.7.5) here's that I've done : install Aperture 3.4.3, update library with iPhoto 9.4.2, access the 9.4.2-updated library in Aperture 3.4.3 —> the problem is here too ! Can't have the Folder- or Year-view of the Projects...

     

    Both buttons are working for me.

     

    I guess you have Aperture 3.4.3.

    Do you remember where your libraries come from, I mean : have they been updated with iPhoto 9.4.2 ?

     

    Couldn't the bug be here : when accessing with "Aperture 3.4.3" to "iPhoto 9.4.2"-updated libraries ?

  • 10. Re: "Project view" : cannot organize projects any longer (Aperture 3.4.3)
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,775 points)

    On my wife's MacBook (10.7.5) here's that I've done : install Aperture 3.4.3, update library with iPhoto 9.4.2, access the 9.4.2-updated library in Aperture 3.4.3 —> the problem is here too ! Can't have the Folder- or Year-view of the Projects...

    I have both iPhoto and Aperture libraries and it works with both (Aperture 3.4.3, iPhoto 9.4.2).

     

    If the library is the culprit, when upgraded with iPhoto 9.4.2, then you should see the same problem with a new library. How about creating new, simple Aperture and iPhoto libraries on your wifes computer and checking, if new libraries show the same problem on her computer after the upgrade?

  • 11. Re: "Project view" : cannot organize projects any longer (Aperture 3.4.3)
    lucky.lucb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Same problem with new libraries, whether on my computer or on my wife's.

    U're right, updating of the library might not be the culprit.

    So what ?

  • 12. Re: "Project view" : cannot organize projects any longer (Aperture 3.4.3)
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,775 points)

    U're right, updating of the library might not be the culprit.

    It never hurts to repair the library occasionally for maintainance purposes, and to get it out of the way, when debugging. But your problem seems to be system wide.

     

    I still suspect, you may have installed some third party software on both machines, some nice innocent helper application, that is now causing trouble. Do you use any non-Apple add-ons, older programs that have not been tested with Lion or Mt. Lion?

     

    @Kirby, do you have a brainwave, if you are still following this thread? I am quickly running out of ideas.

     

    We need clues.

    @lucky.lucb,

    Do you have a "Console" window open? If not, launch the Console application from the Applications > Utilities folder and have a look, if diagnostics or error messages appear, when you try to group the projects by year or by folder. If yes, then post the message here.

     

    Couldn't the bug be here : when accessing with "Aperture 3.4.3" to "iPhoto 9.4.2"-updated libraries ?

    There is a known bug, that sorting of projects by date does not work, if the Aperture library contains smart albums that have been created in iPhoto. If you still have smart albums, that you imported from older iPhoto libraries, then replace them by recreating the same album in Aperture. But I do not see, how this could help here, since you said, that you tested with new libaries on both machines.

     

    Please post back, if you find something in the Console.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • 13. Re: "Project view" : cannot organize projects any longer (Aperture 3.4.3)
    lucky.lucb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    0) Repaired the library : didn't solve the case

     

    1) Console :

     

    - Nothing special appears when I try to group the Projects

     

    - This message has nothing to do with our problem, does he ?

    05/12/12 22:40:51,121 com.apple.backupd[2751]: Deep event scan at path:/Users/admin/Pictures/Aperture Library.aplibrary/Database/apdb reason:must scan subdirs|missed reservation|

     

    2) Deleted the smart albums made in iPhoto : did not solve the case

     

    3) Don't have no Aperture add-ons ; might have some non-Apple add-ons on my system ("Second Bar" for instance - tried to quit it, didn't solve anything), but it would be a tough work to find the one which causes the trouble, wouldn't it ?

     

     

    I must say I'm getting a little tired (thank you for your patience !) ; think I'm gonna wait for the next Aperture update, hoping it will solve my problem (but I fear it certainly won't... )

  • 14. Re: "Project view" : cannot organize projects any longer (Aperture 3.4.3)
    lucky.lucb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Maybe some new stuff regarding the console :

     

    in fact I have periodically these messages :

     

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