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What are your thoughts on the New iTunes 11?

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  • ToneMonkey Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 6, 2012 3:34 PM (in response to Porf)

    OK, I finally get to pass along a tip or two.

     

    Cover art in Artist view. iTunes examines all albums for a given Album Artist, looks for the album with the highest net rating (album with the highest percentage of highly rated songs) and uses THAT cover art in the Artist view.

     

    It is possible to manipulate this behavior. If you don't like the cover iTunes decides it wants to use, go into THAT album and set all the song ratings to zero. You'll notice that iTunes will pick the album with what is now the highest net rating. Now go back and change the ratings on that first album. The artist cover art should remain unchanged. I total PITA if you ask me. The Set Default Grid Artwork command worked just fine IMHO.

     

    If the Artist view cover art is blank and clearly some of your albums have cover art, this is a bug. Select all the ablums for that artist, go in and change the Album Artist field in some trivial way (delete one character). You'll see that the art "pops" in place. Then go back in and correct the Album Artist field.

     

    This is all a major PITA but at least I understand how to fix it.

     

    Where's my paycheck Apple? Clearly, your own QA people didn't do as much testing as I have done in the past three days.

  • bgmw Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 6, 2012 3:59 PM (in response to Porf)

    It stinks. My iPod classic won't sync. Lots of people have this problem. it gets stuck on track 2 or track 5. I - unwisely as it turned out - followed one person's advice to restore my iPod. Now it's got almost no music on it. I'm going to demand my money back from Apple.

  • agjohn Calculating status...
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    Dec 6, 2012 4:20 PM (in response to Porf)

    It seems like everything Apple does these days *****!! Why can't they just leave S*** alone? First the new OS with all kinds of problems now this. I want my coverflow back NOW! I paid alot of money for my mac, quit screwing it up without my consent.

  • JT_Productions Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 6, 2012 4:27 PM (in response to Porf)

    Horrible! I hope apple reads this and reconsiders it's decision to drop some of my favorite features like duplicates and cover flow. The lay-out is completely wrong. It's like they decided to make it look and feel like your on the iPad. I've been warning everyone. Me, I was the guinea pig.

  • JT_Productions Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 6, 2012 4:37 PM (in response to InfoMiner)

    For the person looking for play counts...

    Go to : View / View Options / check the box (Plays)   

  • Richard was taken Calculating status...
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    Dec 6, 2012 4:37 PM (in response to Porf)

    I have about 1700 albums in my library and used to have iTunes set to Grid view, grouped on Artist. That view is now gone, now I have a long list of albums without any dividers which adds a lot of usability overhead, I now have to read every single album and artist entry to see where a new artist collection begins, it's awful. I don't really care for the new bells and whistles and neat tricks with background and font colors.

     

    This update has a Microsoft feel to it and combines the worst of Apple and Microsoft, Apple dictating what you need and what you most certainly do not need (like a dark background; well I really liked it) and Microsoft releasing pretty software that looks good in screenshots and gets 5 star reviews by press people that don't really use it but is actually very unusable and plain stupid.

     

    It's now a player only and totally worthless as a library management tool. I can understand why you want to refactor software and make it faster and better looking but why change a concept that is in essence quite ok just for the change. I was so disappointed.

  • ecu9697 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 6, 2012 4:37 PM (in response to Porf)

    This is the first time I've actually tried to go back to a previous version of a software (and failed at it since I can't seem to uninstall itunes 11).

     

    One of my (numerous) pet peeves is that I can't search my ipod music.  When I search, it searches my library.  Well, I don't keep all my music on my laptop. I needed to update a playlist and had to go through genre and then scan for the titles I wanted.

     

    And the search for duplicates seems to be gone.

     

    I know a lot of people complain about itunes, but IMO the previous version gave me much more control and options than this lead ballon.

  • nuno1959 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Dec 6, 2012 4:38 PM (in response to BopCat)

      hi BopCat

     

      i REALLY don't mean to get on anybody's case but when you say :

      ''...and can't see how "Cover Flow" is "better"-...'' that suggests you didn't use it, right ? there you go, it's SO simple to understand :

      it's all down to having choices so YOU can set it up YOUR way & i can set it up MY way, right ?

     

      which leads us to the next point you make :

    ''...I don't know how any Apple developer could please someone who prefers what they, and I, obviously consider a significant improvement....''

     

      again my friend it's down to offering choices & accomodating as many people's preferences as possible - let's face it, even car makers, as backward minded & stuck in their ''old ways'' as they are have realised that much by now.. - & since a company's success/failure is inherently connected to it's capability of delivering products that can accomodate as wide a customer base as possible, maybe, just maybe, what you or i or anyone else thinks is best, ultimately becomes quite irrelevant

      it's ALL about the possibility of ''adjusting it'' or fine tuning it to each person's own preference & that's all there is to it

     

      which means even Apple dev's livelihoods ride on their capability to deliver THAT or change jobs !

     

      isn't that what Apple did a few years ago when it offered ways of doing things the other ''big players'' wouldn't, effectively pulling the rug from under their feet in SO MANY things ? has that approach proven successful or what ?....

     

      let's NOT forget that to build up a reputation it takes a lifetime of ''doing it right'' & yet to throw it all away it only takes A FEW bad moves....unfair for sure but that's just the name of the game

     

      i REALLY like Apple products ! enough to buy them, use them, recommend them to family, friends & clients as well so i REALLY HAVE a vested interest that they keep doing it right : by me, by you & by everybody else

      hence i criticise when i feel i must...& must give you space to disagree !

     

      to understand MY gripes with iTunes 11, perhaps you should try using it with roughly 10.000 albums at nearly 3TB of music to manage & sort through - MAYBE then you'd see it differently ?

     

      add the fact that digitising, loading up all the albums ( LP's & CD's..) come up with a ''cataloging system'' & setting up playlists that made sense to me + adding the album covers into iTunes took me MANY, MANY, MANY weeks of my life, so yes i was FURIOUS & about to EXPLODE when after doing the ''update'' most of that was trashed in minutes & replaced by something someone else thought was ''best for me''

     

      in the interest of keeping my post as short as possible i will spare us all the details...

     

      i'm very sorry but as long as i pay all of the 2000€ i paid for my computer, i WILL INSIST actually DEMAND to be able to set it up my way

      now if Apple, or you.. intend to start sending me a new computer every couple of years, well....GREAT ! but let's cross that bridge when we get to it shall we ?

     

      i DON'T want to force anyone to set up things this, that or any other way & all i'm saying is that i would REALLY appreciate that courtesy back, that's all + i get the feeling MOST people posting in frustration against iTunes are in reality asking for the same only using other words ?

     

      so, since the thread IS called ''what are your thoughts on the new iTunes11'' what do you think if we all stick to just THAT ?

     

      enjoy your iTunes11 & have a  GREAT week-end

  • Richard was taken Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Dec 6, 2012 4:47 PM (in response to ecu9697)

    This will do the trick:

     

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=16400819

     

    You will need to re-import your lib though. Good luck.

  • Dickie7 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Mini player does not have a volume button. You must click on the album artwork, wait for the new window to spawn then change volume from there. Seriously? What a glaring omission.

  • ron App Calculating status...
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    Dec 6, 2012 6:12 PM (in response to Dickie7)

    Dickie7 wrote:

     

    ..You must click on the album artwork...

    Except, there is NO "Album Artwork" to click on! That icon is actually a "Song Artwork".

     

    They have lost that concept.

  • nuno1959 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Dec 6, 2012 6:15 PM (in response to Fabe)

    Hi Fabe

     

    can you show me how to set it in grid view by artists so my 10.000 albums/3TB worth of music remain as easy as it was to find as before

    if that's possible i'll update...

    oh & i truly wish for selectable size artwork as well w/ dark background, white just ''cooks'' my eyes after a while

     

    thanks

  • JT_Productions Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 6, 2012 6:17 PM (in response to Porf)

    Type in "the new itunes11" in any search engine and you'll see reviews like this...

     

    "This new version won't please every iTunes user. Some familiar ways of doing things have changed and some longtime features have been axed in the name of simplification."

     

    There is so much B.S. surrounding the reviews of this new launch. Bring back the old iTunes!

  • P Willis Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 6, 2012 6:39 PM (in response to Porf)

    So far, I have a few new complaints to combine with a few continured one's but overll, the new iTunes is acting pretty solid with some lovely new mods to enjoy. Thanks Apple!

     

    1) It drives me nuts when "adding to the library . . ." that the Finder is always reset. It makes me sort through hardrives, folders, subfolders over and over again just to add songs. I wish it would just revert back to the iTunes Music folder as a default starting point.

     

    2) Why can we not Delete entries in the "Recently Added" section? Quite often crap gets added to my iTunes that I don't want in there (like voicemail messages) and it's a royal pain in the *** to have to hunt them all down in my iTunes Library and delete them.

     

    3) Still cannot add Artwork to WAV files. Why?

     

    iTunes 11

     

    Love a lot of the new features and the new look BUT . . .

     

    1) Mini Player. Although doable, it's not the way it was, which in my opinion, was perfect.

     

    2) Where/How do I add artwork that's NOT iTunes Store related? This used to be quite simple. Now, I can't figure out how to do it. Please Apple . . . Right Click> Copy/Paste works very well.

     

    3) Seems I can't just double click on a toon and have it play without being prompted for other options. Double click = commit to play the friggen song please. Not "next song?" NOW!

     

    4) I'm sure this can be done but haven't figured it out yet: The album covers take up way too much real estate in a 30,000 strong library. Where did "List view" go? While it's pretty to see the covers, it's not always practical.

     

    5) Another inconsiderate Apple "bully" move. When you open iTunes, it takes total control of your computer. I prefer it to open in the background and IF it has a question, (like "allow incoming connections" or "Sharing is turned off" or whatever . . .) WAIT!! I'll get to you in due time. It is MY time anyway, not iTunes. Do not interupt what I'm doing and demand attention and every single bit of processing power to load. It's stupid and has been going on wayyyyy too long now.

     

    Improvements/Suggestions

     

    I'd love to see a button on the main tool bar that takes you directly to the "Song Currently Playing".

  • BaboonLoveMonkey Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 6, 2012 7:22 PM (in response to Saki GT)

    Saki GT wrote:

     

    BaboonLoveMonkey wrote:

     

    What would be simple is iTunes 10.7's text only view that shows more, and lets me do what I want, how I want, without removing features, wasting massive amounts of space, and segregating iPod content from the sidebar.

    Or you know, having it with scalable Coverflow, so you could add a visual element of interest to the spreadsheet UI, which really gives you the most control. 

    I never liked nor found coverflow useful except in the rare instance I could recall only the art, not artist, album, track name, etc. But I can see how some would like it a lot and find it very handy - well work different ways. Thus I too am baffled by it's removal, especially given it was purely an option. Reomving it in these circumstances just seems silly and petty.

     

    Also I far prefer the DJ and having iPod content inline in the same sidebar as local content, not to mention preferring basically everything about v10.7's UI over v11's.

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