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  • 15. Re: Broken Mac SE 30?
    Peter Temp Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    That is so true.

     

    Cleaning it is defantly needed, I just don't have the tools. I can hear and even see the drive spin up when the disk is first put in but from looking its not acctually touching it, just hovering above it while the screen shows a floppy icon with an X in it. The drive then stops and makes a motor buzz. I am thinking this is the eject sound though the disk doesn't eject.

     

    My Mac has shown a new face today when I turned it on. It started by showing a flashing floppy with a ? in it but suddenly showed a Finder face icon for a few seconds before returning to the question mark floppy. I'm not sure what that means. Maybe it is locating some of the OS files but then stubling on corruption.

     

    I just want to install the OS and all the Apps I have got. Once this has been done I won't have any use for the floppy. I'll see if I can borrow a external, even that is hard to come by. Blast pre USB is so annoying haha.

  • 16. Re: Broken Mac SE 30?
    paulpen Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    Yeah, USB is nice. SCSI used to be the standard because all Macs had it, so there is a lot of older stuff around. However i don't know of any external SCSI *floppy* drive, but there were external SCSI ZIP drives. Again, the trick is getting the OS (installers) onto that, which requires a second, working SCSI Mac

     

    Since you got the Finder face, i really think it could be a dirty drive, or heads. It's not that hard to take the SE apart, just be careful. In fact, before doing that you could try blowing it out really hard--maybe with compressed air or that stuff that comes in a spray can, if you haven't already.

  • 17. Re: Broken Mac SE 30?
    Peter Temp Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Yer thats alittle annoying. I don't have the OS install disks so how can I go about cleaning the HDD? It seems to be intermitant. Lets hope that works too.

     

    I'll give it a good blast of compressed air though I don't have any tools to open the case so will have to blow through the openings.

  • 18. Re: Broken Mac SE 30?
    paulpen Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    I meant clean the floppy drive, which you can do to some degree thru the front opening. As for the hard drive, there's no way to clean one. You could take it out and put it in another SCSI Mac to test it though. You can download all the older Mac OS's. And those star tools aren't expensive, e.g. <$5, and they're good for other things sometimes too. Like cleaning junk off the sink, he he. But i think a working Mac SE is worth a lot more than $5....

  • 19. Re: Broken Mac SE 30?
    Appaloosa mac man Level 5 Level 5 (4,325 points)

    I would be careful blasting anything - if you you can not see it directly - with air.  You could blast a head right off its seat.  The happy face means that the heads found something so leave well enough alone until you can see what you are cleaning. 

     

    Try to find a user group and get the right tools for the job, namely, an external hard drive.  Even the external SCSI zip might need to have "Guest' installed by floppy before the external zip will work on the SCSI chain. 

     

    Did you post back with the name of a large city near you.  Was it in Florida?  What you are looking for is so easy to find in Washington State.

     

    Ji~m

  • 20. Re: Broken Mac SE 30?
    Peter Temp Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    I find it strange that the floppy drive reader head where able to find anything. The holder suspends the disk about 3cm above the head, that and the floppy disk I inseaded was a 1.44mb rather than a 800k so shouldn't of been able to read it. If its the HDD causing the happy face, what could be causing it to show so intermitently?

     

    I've managed to borrow a tool to open it so will get it open and clean. I've seen videos online explaining how to clean and lubricate the floppy drive though still looks complex haha.

     

    Me? No I live in London anyway so bit far.

  • 21. Re: Broken Mac SE 30?
    Appaloosa mac man Level 5 Level 5 (4,325 points)

    The floppy drive read head is retracted to fit over the case edge.  Once the floppy case - or carrier, if you will - is inserted into the drive, the heads drop down into place.

     

    It is not uncommon for older hard drives to resist spinning up.  If the HD is present and reluctant, that could account for the happy face and then ???

     

    It would be very odd if you truely did have an 800k drive.  I believe that every SE ever made had a 1.44 drive.  The original drives were not super drives to read IBM fomatted disks, but they read Mac 1.44 disks just fine.  Our third computer was the first dual floppy drive SE with an accelerator card.  Those floppies were definately 1.44 in 1987.

  • 22. Re: Broken Mac SE 30?
    Peter Temp Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Spinning up isn't the issue. I can manually make the dive spin up but gentle touching a button under the tray that hold the disk. From what I gather the disk tray drops down hitting the switch and spinning up the drive. Since it doesn't drop the tray the disk doesn't spin nor even touch the spinner motor for that matter.

     

    Oh where you refering to the HDD? When I first turned the Mac on the HDD wouldn't spin up but now has sprung back to live out of its own accord. You can hear it being accessed but doesn't boot. Still the happy face has only just started showing itself. How do you go about relubricating a HDD?

     

    According to specs online the Mac SE (which I have) has a 800k drive while the SE 30 has the 1.44mb.

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