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Tigervision Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Nov 28, 2012 1:25 PM

Hi all...

Say I have a project (A).  And a second project (B).  A third project (C).  Each with their own music photos, etc.

 

Is there a way to create a new project and import A, B, C.

 

So the movie that is rendered will be A, B, and C playing smoothly as one giant movie.... so there is a semeless transition of A to B to C.

 

The reason for asking is I want to create a large movie.... but I want to put together in sections (individual projects) ... then join the sections together (one new large project).

 

Thanks.

  • zyfert Level 3 Level 3 (610 points)
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    Nov 29, 2012 12:52 PM (in response to Tigervision)

    Two ways I know of doing this.

    1. Simple copy and paste.

    2. Export movies B and C via Share then re-import them as new events and add them to project A.

    Best,

    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.5), MacBook iPhone 4S iPod Touch
  • AppleMan1958 Level 7 Level 7 (27,335 points)
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    Nov 29, 2012 2:14 PM (in response to Tigervision)

    You can get QuickTime Pro Version 7 and stitch them together.

  • zyfert Level 3 Level 3 (610 points)
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    Nov 29, 2012 4:43 PM (in response to AppleMan1958)

    Yep,  that will be number 3.

    Best,

    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.5), MacBook iPhone 4S iPod Touch
  • betaneptune Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 29, 2012 8:54 PM (in response to zyfert)

    Speaking of which, why is it when you copy a project to a new project, the sound and titles make it over?

  • zyfert Level 3 Level 3 (610 points)
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    Dec 8, 2012 4:41 PM (in response to Tigervision)

    See above.

    Export one of your projects: Share > Export.

    Once that has been done, import it back into iMovie as a new event: File > Import > Video.

    Now add the new event to the end of your first project.

    Or as Appleman suggested, if you have QT7Pro, export both movies and stitch them together there.

    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.5), MacBook iPhone 4S iPod Touch
  • betaneptune Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 9, 2012 7:32 AM (in response to zyfert)

    I just did this successfully in a test.

     

    I opened the first project. This project had no audio and no titles. Nothing fancy. No cutaways, etc. I selected all clips (Cmd-A). Then a Cmd-C. Switched to the new project. Moved the playhead to the end of the last clip. Cmd-V.

     

    Worked fine.  Even worked fine in the middle of the project between clips.

     

    If you have titles, audio, etc., and you want to do this, you're basically screwed AFAICT. Oh, and don't even THINK about it if you want to change the frame rate.

     

    Yeah, you can export and re-import. PITA. And then how would you edit your titles? And what about quality loss? If iMovie weren't next to free, lack of such a functionality would be a rip off, for lack of a better term than I can think up right now.

  • betaneptune Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 9, 2012 8:26 AM (in response to betaneptune)

    The word I was looking is unforgivable where I wrote rip off.          

  • betaneptune Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 9, 2012 8:27 AM (in response to Tigervision)

    Question:

     

    Did the movie you copied that got scrambled contain transitions or titles? I just tried a copy operation that contained a transition and the wrong footage was copied.

     

    As I said before, the problem with the export and re-import method is that you lose the ability to edit such things (or so I would think, anyway). So it seems to me that if you want to re-edit such entities your only choice is to copy without such things and manually re-create them from scratch. Yuck.

     

    Message was edited by: betaneptune Edited to clarify. No change in meaning.

  • AppleMan1958 Level 7 Level 7 (27,335 points)
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    Dec 9, 2012 10:32 AM (in response to betaneptune)

    @Betaneptune Don't you have Final Cut Pro X? In FCPX you can copy and paste everything from project to project, and it is pretty simple to import an iMovie project into FCPX. (Except for changing frame rates - not sure about that.)

  • betaneptune Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 9, 2012 11:03 AM (in response to AppleMan1958)

    No sir, I do not have FCPX.  And it doesn't support my graphics card. I think I missed it by only one "level". I would have to buy a new iMac. And add to that an optical drive!!! Oh, and then there're my USB 2.0/FireWire drives. I guess the USB would work, but it wouldn't run at USB 3.0 speed.

     

    I think I'll make due with iMovie 9.0.4 for now. I can manage, but of course I welcome any tips to make things easier! I'd like to get iMovie 9.0.8, or whatever the latest is -- IF it would have some useful-to-me bug fixes and not break anything I currently have. I don't want to do a semi-non-reversable upgrade from 10.6.8 to Mountain Lion just to find out that iMovie 9.0.8 breaks something! Is it really asking to much for Apple to provide a comprehensive list of bug fixes, like DEC, Compaq, and now hp do with their VMS operation system? (I assume hp still does. I haven't upgraded a VMS system in years, so I'd have to check.)

     

    Fortunately, at least for current projects, I have very few titles and transitions. Hmmm, I just remembered. My movie "Silent Quake" has transtions, and I didn't have any trouble copying them. You know what? I might have done my experiment copying from a 24 fps to a 30 fps project. Yes, that must be it. It seems that nothing comes over right when you do that. . . . OK, transitions are okay when not changing the frame rate.

     

    As far as converting to a different frame rate goes, I'm doing it. Here's what it takes (approx. 14 minutes, 45 video clips plus titles and one transition):

     

    Plan to make 30 fps VFT

     

    Document 24 fps version

        For each clip

            Take screenshot of the first frame

            Take screenshot of the last frame

            Get speed

            Get duration

            Take notes about what got cropped

            Write down color correction parameters (Or I could copy and paste, but that involves the old back-and-forth bit. Hey, can't write down the color correction params in FCPX, right?! Yes, FCPX color correction has more capabilities than iMovie's.)

     

    Build the 30 fps version

        Create a 30 fps project

        Copy single clip of the raw footage to the project

        Split the footage at each clip's first frame.

        Make cuts so that the last frame of each clip is correct.

        Copy music over

        Sync with music       

        Adjust the speeds

        Adjust the durations

        Apply cropping

        Apply color correction

     

    So far I've done the following:

     

    VFT D-3 16  24 fps version

     

    VFT E 0     30 fps version (copied the single big clip from the Event Browser to a new blank project.)

    VFT E 1        first-frame cuts applied except very first

    VFT E 2        last-frame cuts applied

     

    Well, I still have to document the 24 fps version from Get Speed and forward.

     

    As far as titles go, my current set of movies all have original titles shot in Super 8. Only my "Visuals for Timesteps" movie doesn't. I presently have 5 titles for that, so it's not real bad. And I still have to go back and forth between the projects once in a while.

     

    Message was edited by: betaneptune. I fat-fingered the post operation before I finished. Finished now.

  • AppleMan1958 Level 7 Level 7 (27,335 points)
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    Dec 9, 2012 8:33 PM (in response to Tigervision)

    You will lose some quality when you export, quality stays the same when you reimport. Then when you share your new movie, you lose a little more. The question is will it be visible to your eye. You can try it and see.

     

    Export using QuickTIme in Apple Intermediate Codec in the same size as your Event Clips. If your event clips are 1920x1080, stick with that. If they are 1280x720, use that.

     

    I think that would work for stringing together 2 or maybe three segments. It will probably not work for stringing together multiple segments, although it doesn't hurt to try.

  • betaneptune Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 10, 2012 7:55 AM (in response to betaneptune)

    Make that "transitions are okay WHEN chaning the frame rate". Sorry for the goof.

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