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Aperture D600 Raw Files too dark?

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Mike Bisom1 Level 4 Level 4 (3,535 points)
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Dec 11, 2012 4:10 PM

Is anyone else seeing that their Nikon D600 raw files stink in Aperture? I realize that Apple backwards engineers Raw support but if I look at a file from my D600 on Aperture and Capture NX2, the difference is 10-fold. I can see detail in the shadows in the NX2 conversion and nothing but black in the Aperture conversion. I have never seen this much of a disparity and I have used well over a dozen different DSLR's. I am curious if anyone else is seeing this? I mean in one image I can see a staircase in the NX2 conversion and nothing but black in Aperture?

Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8), 16GB Ram
  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,755 points)
  • funkcanna Calculating status...
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    Dec 12, 2012 11:23 PM (in response to Mike Bisom1)

    I am having the same issues with my Nikon D4.  I shoot Neutral and the image looks great in camera, then import into Aperture and it STILL looks great - until I click the thumbnail and it says "loading".  After this point the image seems to lose dynamic range and the white balance seems to change.  Ive been using Aperture since I got my MBP Retina because Lightroom didnt (until now) support Retina.  I really like the interface Aperture provides and I enjoy using it, but I shoot professionally and I simply cannot continue to use Aperture when it is destroying my images as I do not have the time to figure out how to fix them when I have client deadlines.

     

    In Lightroom, similar changes are made to my images but I can completely correct them by changing the camera calibration settings to Neutral.  Aperture doesnt have this feature so my images get ruined.

     

    I really hope Apple sort this out as at this point, its making me switch back to Lightroom.

  • William Lloyd Level 6 Level 6 (19,235 points)
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    Dec 13, 2012 9:58 AM (in response to funkcanna)

    "Neutral" on the camera means nothing.  Those control the JPEG previews only and do not affect RAW files.

     

    A common cause of dark photos is if you use a setting like "preserve highlights" on camera.  I don't know what it's called on the Nikon, but on the Canon I think it's "highlight tone priority."  You should disable that to get properly rendered RAW files in Aperture.

  • alice_srq Calculating status...
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    Dec 13, 2012 2:53 PM (in response to Mike Bisom1)

    I was very happy to see this thread because I'm having similar issues with the Nikon D7000. It was really starting to bug me and I  thought it was related to upgrades. I'm also playing with a Sony Nex F3 these days and this thread sent me to those pictures to see if the same phenomena happens.  It does not happen with the Sony.  Using RAW images in both instances.

  • alice_srq Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Dec 18, 2012 7:32 PM (in response to Mike Bisom1)

    Thanks for this link, Mike. I have sent a Feedback message.

  • alice_srq Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Dec 20, 2012 6:35 AM (in response to Mike Bisom1)

    Hi Mike - Following up on this problem:  I was able to reinstall Aperture 3.3.2 from my Time Machine and I chose a mid-October date.  The 3.4 upgrade came out in November and that's when I began to notice the issues with the severe darkening.  Going back in time seems to have gotten rid of the severe darkening.  There is still some change when it goes from "loading" to presentation but I think that has always been the case.  However, the absolute pall of darkness that was appearing is gone.

     

    If you have Time Machine you might want to try the same thing.  I'd be curious to hear from others who can do this "work-around".  Fortunately I do not have too many photos from November and December to re-load and since I use referenced files it will be a relatively easy task.

     

    Best of luck. ---  Alice

  • alice_srq Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Dec 20, 2012 1:44 PM (in response to alice_srq)

    Okay, scratch the idea about re-installing Aperture 3.3.2.  It was effective for a while but the darkening problem has returned.  Very odd.  Think I'll have a look at Lightroom.

  • Lonewolfjustin2105 Calculating status...
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    Dec 27, 2012 4:12 PM (in response to Mike Bisom1)

    I'm debating jumping over to Lightroom because as you say, "all the money is in the iPhone/iPad"  I am downloading a trial this weekend to see if I like it.  But I have a gut feeling that Aperture has been thrown on the backburners and won't continue to grow with technology.  I could be completely wrong, but that is the feeling I am getting.  As for the darkening of photos or problems with RAW files from the Nikon D600 I haven't noticed any real problems.  The only thing that is confusing me is when I touch my brightness adjustment but leave it at 0 my photo jumps quite a bit in brightness.  I have to lower the brightness just to get it back to where it was before it was at 0, if that makes sense.  The thing that is really making me hesitant on moving to Lightroom is losing Faces and the compatibility with all the other apple products (iTunes, iDVD, iMovie, etc...)

  • Bob Piskac Calculating status...
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    Dec 27, 2012 7:22 PM (in response to Mike Bisom1)

    I talked to Apple. They said that the preview is the jpeg view. When you click on thumbnail, the raw file is loaded. They said the dark photo is my fault not the software. I am going to load the Nikon software to see if that works better.

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