9 Replies Latest reply: Dec 3, 2013 3:22 PM by PAHU
DMerz Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)

Hello,

 

I've read some older threads regarding this discussion but they must be closed since I couldn't add a comment.  So, I thought it would be best to open a new one.  I apologize if I'm treading old ground.

 

Here's my setup:  MacBook Pro (mid-2010), Mac OS X v10.6.8 Snow Leopard, Safari 5.1.2.  I needed a basic scanner, did research and everything looked good, so I bought a Canon CanoScan LiDE 210 scanner.  All I need is to be able to scan documents (minimal graphics) to the MacBook, preferably in PDF format.  Not really interested in scanning photos etc.

 

I just want to be careful and would like some clarification, please.  So regarding installation, I've gotten three "recommendations/methods":

 

1) With the purchased Scanner, included was installation CD with instructions.

 

2) Emailed Canon Support and was told to download the latest driver and the MP Navigator EX from their website instead.

 

3) Read and referenced Apple Support Article HT3669 , which has been updated recently - February 15th, 2012.

 

Now, step #3 is my preferred selection, since it comes from Apple Software Update and the article lists the LiDE 210 as supported.

 

I also noticed on the other thread (that I could not comment on), that PAHU commented:

 

I have the LiDE200 and it works fine with Image Capture and Preview. The driver was included with one of the Canon updates hosted via Apple and part of Software Update. Checking the [latest Canon update|http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3669#canon] hosted by Apple, the LiDE210 and LiDE700F are both included as supported scanners.

 

This sounds exactly what I want to do for installation and use (Image Capture and Preview).

 

So before mucking up anything, if possible, could someone please confirm the step #3 approach and the supporting comments. (PAHU ?!  ).

 

The way it appears, step #3 seems like minimal hassle, straightforward, and the best way to go.  Also, do I really need this "MP Navigator EX", if I have Image Capture and Preview?  I would prefer to avoid as much third party SW as possible.

 

I apologize for the lengthy post and thanks in advance for the help!

 

DMerz


MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8), 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB Ram, 250 GB HD
  • 1. Re: Update Re: Using Canon LiDE 210 with OS X 1.6.8
    kurt188 Level 4 Level 4 (1,335 points)

    If I were you, I'd do what the Apple Support document suggests, since that's the only way you'll find out if it works.

  • 2. Re: Update Re: Using Canon LiDE 210 with OS X 1.6.8
    PAHU Level 6 Level 6 (14,520 points)

    Hello DMerz,

     

    Getting the scanner drivers via Apple Software Update will work fine for Image Capture and Preview. The thing to note is that this is the ICA driver, which is designed to work with the two aforementioned applications. If you want to use another application that is TWAIN based, such as Adobe Acrobat Pro (you mentioned you wanted to make PDFs), then you would need to use this scanner driver from Canon. Don't use the CD as there is a high chance that it will have an older version.

     

    As for MP Navigator, I don't use it personally. I prefer Image Capture and iPhoto for what I do. I have used it for providing support to others and find it average at best.

     

    Hope that helps you and reply if you need more info.

  • 3. Re: Update Re: Using Canon LiDE 210 with OS X 1.6.8
    DMerz Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)

    Hello kurt188 and PAHU,

     

    Thanks for the replies and help!

     

    Everything is looking good!  I plugged the scanner in the USB port and ran SW update.  It found the driver and I installed it.  I didn't try the buttons on the scanner, instead I went right to Image Capture.  And it works like a charm.  I tried the actual scanner buttons but when I pressed the "PDF" button, I got a jpeg scan.  But, it really didn't concern me because everything can be done nicely from within Image Capture.

     

    @PAHU - Thanks for letting me know about the ICA driver and the TWAIN driver (and the link).  For the foreseeable future, I think Image Capture and Preview will do the trick.  I have a ton on simple text documents that I want to scan in, archive or email.

     

    I would love to have Adobe Acrobat Pro but funds won't allow it.  You mentioned TWAIN based (Adobe Acrobat Pro) and making PDF's.  What is the difference in creating a scanned PDF file via Image Capture vs creating one with Adobe Acrobat Pro?  Or another way to ask is, what does the TWAIN driver do that the ICA doesn't?  I googled TWAIN but got lost pretty quick.  Sorry if that is a dumb question... 

     

    I think I'm going to stay away from MP Navigator too.  It looks like with Image Capture, I can scan directly to iPhoto (as you mentioned) if I want to do some photo scanning too.

     

    One last question (I think - ).  I'm still running Snow Leopard OS X v10.6.8. but probably will go to Lion soon.  It looks like the Apple Support Doc says that the ICA driver I got through SW update will work with Lion OS X v10.7, so will the driver "disappear" when I do the Lion upgrade, causing me to have to setup the scanner again?

     

    Sorry for all the extra questions and the help is greatly appreciated!

     

    DMerz

  • 4. Re: Update Re: Using Canon LiDE 210 with OS X 1.6.8
    PAHU Level 6 Level 6 (14,520 points)

    Nice to read that it is all working. In response to the questions;

     

    DMerz wrote:

     

     

    I would love to have Adobe Acrobat Pro but funds won't allow it.  You mentioned TWAIN based (Adobe Acrobat Pro) and making PDF's.  What is the difference in creating a scanned PDF file via Image Capture vs creating one with Adobe Acrobat Pro?  Or another way to ask is, what does the TWAIN driver do that the ICA doesn't?  I googled TWAIN but got lost pretty quick.  Sorry if that is a dumb question... 

    A PDF created by Image Capture is not a text searchable PDF. It is basically an image file (it is usually a TIFF with a Postscript header). So if you wanted to locate some line of text on the page, you would not have the ability to do so. In contrast, a PDF created in Acrobat will be text searchable, as the software will do character recognition (aka OCR). So if you wanted the means to locate content within each document, then you should OCR the scanned document. An Acrobat Pro will do this on the fly as you scan the document. Using Image Capture, you would have to scan the document first and then use some OCR package to convert the scanned image.

     

    For the record, MP Navigator has an OCR function, but it is not as accurate as Acrobat Pro's version.

     

     

    DMerz wrote:

     

    One last question (I think - ).  I'm still running Snow Leopard OS X v10.6.8. but probably will go to Lion soon.  It looks like the Apple Support Doc says that the ICA driver I got through SW update will work with Lion OS X v10.7, so will the driver "disappear" when I do the Lion upgrade, causing me to have to setup the scanner again?

    The driver won't disappear if you upgrade. The ICA driver package available from Apple is for 10.6 and 10.7. But it is sometimes advisable to remove the printers and scanner in 10.6 before you upgrade, or at least ensure you have the latest versions available before the 10.7 update. Given that you have just done this installation then you have the latest drivers so there should be no issue with the scanner after the Lion update.

  • 5. Re: Update Re: Using Canon LiDE 210 with OS X 1.6.8
    jem279 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm new to the community and not an expert.  I've just bought a canon Lide 210 scanner.  I installed the drivers via Apple and the computer recognises the device - I see it is also listed in the usb tree.  I have a mac os x 10.6.8 snow leopard and keep getting the message 'failed to open a session on the device'.

    I have never had any other printers or scanners on this mac so there was nothing to delete prior to installation.

    I plugged in the scanner first even though the canon instructions advised against it as I found advice on the web that Apple driver download was by far the easiest.

    I'd appreciate your help.

  • 6. Re: Update Re: Using Canon LiDE 210 with OS X 1.6.8
    rogelin Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Check the lock switch located at the underside of the Canoscan device.  I found I locked the switch by accident and had exactly the same problem.

  • 7. Re: Update Re: Using Canon LiDE 210 with OS X 1.6.8
    hailalistair Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    THANKS!

  • 8. Re: Update Re: Using Canon LiDE 210 with OS X 1.6.8
    jbaker14 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi Pahu

     

    I have a problem with my Canon scanner Lide 210, I have contacted Canon support and they were unable to help as in, did not know what to suggest.

     

    The scanner works fine on my laptop running on snow leopard however, it does not work on my deskop running on mavericks. I downloaded the latest MP Navigator and Driver, before that i checked that any previous version of the canon software was deleted, the computer recoginises the device but "fails to open a session" everytime I try and press "scan"

     

    Its connected via USB, the lock button beneath the scanner is off, Ive tried restarting and re-installing the software... I just have no idea what to try next bar setting up an appointmnet with the apple store on the presumption that theres something wrong with my mac?

     

    Having said that, the mac connects to my basic HP printer/scanner easy enough... so a problem with the mac seems unlikely...

     

    Any kind of help would be much appreciaterd.

     

    cheers,

    Jeff

  • 9. Re: Update Re: Using Canon LiDE 210 with OS X 1.6.8
    PAHU Level 6 Level 6 (14,520 points)

    Hi Jeff. The only time that I've seen this message is when the lock button on the bottom is on.

     

    For this Mac with 10.9, was this an upgrade from a previous OS X and was the scanner already installed? Or is this a clean installation of 10.9?