Currently Being ModeratedDec 14, 2012 4:18 PM (in response to The Gster)
I think I'd just updated my last Library too.
Yep, I deleted 11..
Downloaded 10.7 and reinstalled it but removed the last dated Library which would've been the Library that was installed by 11.
Sorry to say, It think you're right..
I wonder just how many people have been p****d off by this whole experience.
Like I said, I do use playlists a lot, but chenge them from time to time, but tend to only keep a few, so losing them was no big deal.
The biggest was an "Intermission," playlist, I use between sets for background music, on gigs when I'n not playing, which I also change regularly, but that only has about 32 songs in it.
For those who've made up dedicated playlists for D.J. ing proper, I imagine that's going to be quite a task..
Good luck with the reinstall.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 15, 2012 1:42 PM (in response to fvil)
I totally agree, first they made i work un-useable with things like not having a command for save-as, now the DJ was the feature i used every time i turned itunes on. then it was really easy to refine it by making a genius list out of a song on the DJ list.
APPLE YOU ARE LOSING TOUCH WITH YOUR CUSTOMERS--Get a grip, fix it
Currently Being ModeratedDec 15, 2012 2:40 PM (in response to Branden Williams)
Getting rid of the iTunes DJ is another huge mistake!!! Who makes these decisions? I think apple is losing contact with their customers. This was a basic, my favorite routine to use with iTunes. It will still create a list by finding some song to start with, then a genius logo comes up under genius mix. But what good have been more simple than always having the DJ list sitting there? then i could create a genius list from a particular song i liked that day, and it was good.
But why make it so difficult? Now, all of a sudden? can i revert to the last revision?
Another example of these short sighted changes was that I stopped using iWork as soon as it became impossible to do a save-as command. this is just stupid
APPLE YOU NEED TO BE TOUCH WITH YOUR CUSTOMERS!! DO USERS GROUPS, OR ETHNO-GRAPHIC STUDIES, BUT PLEASE STOP MAKING YOUR SOFTWARE WORSE AND DYSFUNTIONAL!
Currently Being ModeratedDec 15, 2012 7:53 PM (in response to Neorich)
I've been searching for iTunes DJ and a way to get back to voting and jukebox like functions.
After seeing it in use at a 40th I raced out and bought an Apple TV and also an Airport Express, I was so impressed. I loved it. I went from using iTunes on my Mac just to load my iPhone with music, to using it every day because of iTunes DJ.
The kids thought voting was great.
Guests had access and could choose music & vote the order it played in WITHOUT control of volume. You could limit access to just music on particular play lists.
I still can't get my head around Remote 3 and the up next function. I'm missing something I'm sure. Where is it?
I have a Mac running Mountain Lion & Time Machine. IF someone can post instructions to use time machine to go back I would be really greatful. I want iTunes 10.7 back badly.
Any assistance (simple & step by step) greatfully appreciated.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 16, 2012 12:23 AM (in response to Branden Williams)
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 16, 2012 12:31 AM (in response to gmorgjr)
PLEASE post on the "Feedback" fourm at
Meanwhile, if ANYONE finds a full alternative (Or a patch to get it back ) please post about it and a link!
Currently Being ModeratedDec 16, 2012 12:54 AM (in response to IshBish)
You're absolutely right, of course, it's the world we live in.
Trying to approch these untouchable big corporations is an increasingly difficult task, which they make more and more difficult which is a deliberate ploy.
Sadly, even institutions here in the UK, such as the BBC and even official government organizations have now fallen victim to the same policy.
And, if you desperately want to speak to/contact an individual, you find yourself up against endless barriers preventing you from doing so.
The "contact," details are often buried away somewhere making them difficult to find.
If you find them, then you'll more than likely find the sort of "feedback," option presented to us by Apple, which often begins with Orwellian "Newspeak," along the lines of:
"We love to hear your opinions," etc. etc.
If, by some miracle you do get a "reply," it often fails completely to deal with the issue you've raised, or involves a "stock," response which is just as irrelevant.
And, as far as something as "personal," as a phone call, forget it, you'll be presented with even more barriers and then after waiting 20 minutes be given endless repetitions of a recorded message along the lines of:
"Did you know you can find many of the answers to the sort of questions people ask on our Website?"
One of the few exceptions to the above I've found is Amazon, who, in the UK have a policy of asking for your number and then ringing back within an agreed amount of time, which is brilliant.
However, this "feedback," malarky from Apple is probably worth a go, if only to register the number of of people who're hacked off with iTunes 11 and a quick search on the net will demonstrate that we are legion..
"We cannot respond to you personally."
Sez I: Why the **** not?
We are your customers..look after us!
Currently Being ModeratedDec 21, 2012 7:32 AM (in response to Branden Williams)
I miss DJ, but here's a possible workaround for suffling your entire library.
Create a smartplaylist titled DJ. Set the perameters to "checked" and "is true."
You can view and edit the upcoming list by clicking the up next icon.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 21, 2012 3:28 PM (in response to Branden Williams)
I agree....I used the DJ function almost exclusively...my favorite part...being able to play higher rated songs more often...because I do want to hear them more often but still want to hear other things from time to time too...
Currently Being ModeratedDec 21, 2012 3:33 PM (in response to newmoniker)
Thanks for trying but it's not the answer.
The feature most missed by most people who are upset is voting, and adding guest access without them being able to do anything other than select songs to add to the play list.
Unless you find those abilities hidden anywhere you aren't finding a solution to the problem.
The solution is, was and needs to be again iTunes DJ returning to iTunes.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 22, 2012 2:08 PM (in response to Dkjones)
I like to cycle through my library without repeating songs, and listen to the songs I haven't heard in a while. So I would use the DJ to listen to the songs I have not heard in the longest time, by month of Last Played. I would get the next 25 songs queued up, then delete the newer ones until my whole Next Up list was from the Date Range I wanted. When I completed a month, I'd move to the next and so on. I work from home a lot and this was very handy for me - I can't see a way to do the same right now? Maybe create separate playlists for different months that I've last played a song? But even this would need to be managed because shuffle will repeat songs prior to playing the entire playlist.
I know I'm not that advanced, and that's one of the major flaws in this release IMO. Everyone is trying to find workarounds to get back to the way they used the tool, because the new tool has taken away functionality that was easy to use and useful to many.
If there is a way to accomplish what I want to do please educate me. Otherwise I'll just slip further into my complete dissatisfaction with Apple and it's lack of (majority) customer focus.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 22, 2012 3:41 PM (in response to LazyBrownDog)
@LazyBrownDog: You can achieve that easily with a smart playlist.
Create one with "Playlist is: Music" (which is your main music library) and the check at the bottom "Limit to: '25 items' selected by 'least recently played'". Add the playlist to "Up Next" via the random buttom. Once you have played those 25 songs you can add the playlist again which has now a new round of 25 songs.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 22, 2012 6:33 PM (in response to calicoradio.com)
Yeah, at this point, this mindless removal of one of the best, most apple-like features of iTunes the DJ, has just convinced me that my long decision on a tablet is now made.....Nexus, Android, here I come. Enough of this 'hardening" of the apple software eco-system! Where is that Nexus?