12 Replies Latest reply: Dec 16, 2012 10:11 AM by hotwheels 22
hotwheels 22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

hi all.

 

can anyone help me find a thread (can i run a search somehow in ("Your Stuff"?) where folks were kind enough to help me understand how to change file names?

 

i am reading through some help documentation on Batch Change but i am trying to remember what i should be doing to most efficiently solve my problem.

 

basically i have images in aperture which have non-sensical names related to their originally existing in a pc folder organization originally and i would like to both rename them in aperture but also be able to have them EXPORTED to my desktop so i can upload them to the web with some reasonable sounding title such as "client1-town1-HousingType-FirmName-photographer.png" or something similar. right now the images i want to publish are ORGANIZED IN ALBUMS and have names like "folio_construction_other_turtle_134543.png"

 

i think i WOULD LIKE to change the name of the master but i am not totally sure about this and when i run a Metadata > Batch Change and pull down version name i get selections that i do not fully understand.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yvu1u7eskbmhcik/Screen%20Shot%202012-12-03%20at%201.58 .46%20PM.png

 

i /am/ familiar with a handle little tool called Name Mangler which basically allows me to easily delete all the PREFIX information (such as "folio_construction_other_turtle" and then to pre-pend something like "client1-town1-HousingType-FirmName-photographer" in front of the image number which would be ideal...

 

apologies for asking this again but until i get through it once i am finding it all a bit tricky.

 

THANKS


Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.4), with 64 bit Win7 in Parallel
  • 1. Re: changing image file names
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,805 points)

    i think i WOULD LIKE to change the name of the master but i am not totally sure about this and when i run a Metadata > Batch Change and pull down version name i get selections that i do not fully understand.

    Jon,

    to understand, what the presets in the drop-down menu really are, pick on of them, and then use the "Edit" option.

    Look at the Format-text field. Here you see the components of the filename or version name, that will be constructed. You can configure it freely by dragging components from the "Include" menu to the format field.

    In the left column you see all predefined formats. Press "+" to add one of your own.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

    batchhange.png

  • 2. Re: changing image file names
    hotwheels 22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    hi leonie.

     

    thank you. sorry for a bit of a slow learning curve on some of this. i have printed out the list of my posts on the forum and i am trying to find the threads where we have had discussions. i would like to print it out so i can read it again but also so i don't have to find any of them again and can re-read them easier.

     

    can i please ask you to help me again with this issue of renaming?

     

    i mean, i have some photos that are important to me and of course they came into Aperture with "machine names" like image XXXXXX.jpg or whatever. in other cases they came in with "pc names" that are just terrible and way too long. then in a lot of cases i have been deleting duplicates and the names of files in the same area may have mis-matches in terms of one the fact that they all really should have the same kinds of naming system and they don't.

     

    anyway, i have organized all my images in Projects but also i have then organized all my images in Albums. so i have a lot of Albums and in many cases these albums are published to Flickr. but now i need to organize the images for a website (or to send them to someone that will use them for a document or something) and they really need to be RE-NAMED in a sensible way.

     

    so i have already done this in a bulk way using Name Mangler (http://manytricks.com/namemangler/) - - because i cannot see a way to do it in Aperture. i cannot do this one by one by clicking on them in Aperture and i am not sure that there is a tool that will do this in bulk in Aperture - so i have exported "original" images from my ALBUMS (with all the metadata i hope because i exported as jpg i guess...?) and i have renamed them in the folders on my desktop and now they all have very neat and tidy names in neat and tidy folders (which represent Albums in Aperture) so they all have names like this:

     

    nameofcompany_name-of-shoot_1.png

     

    i will be uploading these to someone so they can use them in a way that they get posted to the web with sensible names but also so people can use them in a document and take the title of the image in the document from the name of the image.

     

    can you /please/ help me or remind me if there is a way to get these images /back/ into Aperture in some way that makes sense? am i correct in thinking now that someone was suggesting a way to add these in Stacks in some way? i mean, ideally i would like to do this with all my images that are important to me so that this is a lot more organized moving forward but i cannot see far enough down the road to know what is important and what is not.

     

    THANK YOU

     

    jon

  • 3. Re: changing image file names
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,805 points)

    can you /please/ help me or remind me if there is a way to get these images /back/ into Aperture in some way that makes sense? am i correct in thinking now that someone was suggesting a way to add these in Stacks in some way? i mean, ideally i would like to do this with all my images that are important to me so that this is a lot more organized moving forward but i cannot see far enough down the road to know what is important and what is not.

    Jon,

    Stacking is for keeping sets of similar images or image versions together. I do not think that you have exported multiple versions of the same image to upload, so I no reason to stack.

     

    To import:

    • Make sure you have a backup of your library before reorganizing.
    • Delete the images you exported and renamed from your Aperture library before reimporting, to avoid creating duplicates. When deleting from the album that you used to export, use the command "delete version", not "delete from album". Do not delete the projects that the images came from, only the images.
    • Use "File > import" to reimport your image files. I'd put all images that shall be imported into the same project into one folder, and then import each folder on its own.
      • Select the project in the Library Inspector, that you want to import the folder of images into, then set the "Destination" in   "Import settings > Aperture Library" brick to this project  and set "Store Files" to "In the Aperture Library".
      • Set "Rename files" to "None" or "version name". Both will keep the name you edited.

    Then select the folder of images you want to import in the file chooser and press import.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • 4. Re: changing image file names
    hotwheels 22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi Leonie.

     

    Thank you so much. I am going to be doing a lot of this and just so i understand:

     

    • Delete the images you exported and renamed from your Aperture library before reimporting, to avoid creating duplicates. When deleting from the album that you used to export, use the command "delete version", not "delete from album". Do not delete the projects that the images came from, only the images.

     

    Can you help me understand which images i am deleting? I mean, is there a way to delete just the images in the ALBUM because if i have to go in and delete the images from a Project there are going to be a lot more images in the Project and it is going to be very hard to tell which images have been renamed and which have not been renamed. If i have to do this by deleting the images in the Project, i suppose i could use one of your suggestions to color all the images in an ALBUM, say yellow, and then see where the images show up in Projects but even then i think it will be a bit tricky. Are you saying i can just delete the images in the ALBUM by doing "Delete Version"?

     

     

    • Use "File > import" to reimport your image files. I'd put all images that shall be imported into the same project into one folder, and then import each folder on its own.

     

    OK. So - well - so now i am importing all of the images that i originally had in the Database and they are /basically/ (i moved the folder organization around a little bit while the images were on my desktop in this first attempt...) - they are basically getting IMPORTED into Aperture now with the "new" images coming into the database into a new Project that is named according to the Album that they were in?

     

    This is a little tricky for me. Will the old Albums still exist? What if i had more than one Album with an image in it. Also, this "new" image will be in a /new/ Project but will it still be in the OLD PROJECT with the old name? Or, i guess i am getting a little confused as to how this will work.

     

    • Select the project in the Library Inspector, that you want to import the folder of images into, then set the "Destination" in   "Import settings > Aperture Library" brick to this project  and set "Store Files" to "In the Aperture Library".

     

    OK. I can try this here soon. What does Store Files in the Aperture Library do? I guess these images are getting imported as if they are new and they are getting imported with no external references?

     

    • Set "Rename files" to "None" or "version name". Both will keep the name you edited.

     

    OK. Not sure i totally understand but i can try this as well. I guess this is making sure Aperture will keep the original names.

     

    THANKS

  • 5. Re: changing image file names
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,805 points)

    Can you help me understand which images i am deleting? I mean, is there a way to delete just the images in the ALBUM because if i have to go in and delete the images from a Project there are going to be a lot more images in the Project and it is going to be very hard to tell which images have been renamed and which have not been renamed.

    Usually it is better to selete from the projects, because the projects are the containers of the image versions. But since you have albums with the selections of image versions you want to delete, use the albums to select the images.

     

    • Select all images in the album.
    • CTRL-click the selection and use the command "Delete Versions ⌘⌫ ", not "remove from album".

    This way the versions will be removed from the Aperture library, not only from the album.

     

    This is a little tricky for me. Will the old Albums still exist? What if i had more than one Album with an image in it. Also, this "new" image will be in a /new/ Project but will it still be in the OLD PROJECT with the old name? Or, i guess i am getting a little confused as to how this will work.

    That is why I suggest to delete the old versions (after backing up!) before you import the renamed image files. If the old images have been removed, you can import the new versions into the old projects (if you only deleted the image versions, not the projects).

    I am assuming you want to keep your library structure the same and only to rename the images.

    If that is not the case, import the the renamed images into a new project and then drag them to the projects you want them in.

     

    OK. I can try this here soon. What does Store Files in the Aperture Library do? I guess these images are getting imported as if they are new and they are getting imported with no external references?

    yes.

     

    • Set "Rename files" to "None" or "version name". Both will keep the name you edited.

    OK. Not sure i totally understand but i can try this as well. I guess this is making sure Aperture will keep the original names.

    yes.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • 6. Re: changing image file names
    hotwheels 22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    hi leonie.

     

    i am hoping to try this soon.

     

    just to make sure i am understanding this (and i do find it very confusing) - we are saying that i can EXPORT images to the desktop and rename them, and that i can then DELETE the VERSIONS from the ALBUM that i exported them from - and then, well, and then - we are saying that i should drag these newly named images from the desktop into a new PROJECT?

     

    i mean. i am really hoping to keep these images in the original Project and in the original Albums. For instance, these images /were/ probably in a set of Projects and not necessarily just in one Project and they were organized into Albums (which is how i know that they are important and need to be renamed) - and now they ARE renamed but they are on the desktop. so now i want to have them in Aperture with the new names but staying in the original projects and in the original albums

     

    > I am assuming you want to keep your library structure the same and only to rename the images.

     

    yes exactly.

     

    so the way to do this is to drag them into a new Album??

     

    THANK YOU LEONIE

  • 7. Re: changing image file names
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,805 points)

    Jon,

    and now it is starting to become confusing for me, for I am no longer sure, what you want to achieve.

     

    In the beginnin you said, you wanted to rename images for export and upload to a webpage, and wanted to rename the images to something meaningful. But now you want to keep them in Aperture?

     

    If that is wat you want to do, why not batch change and rename the images in Aperture, if you want to have different names in Aperture?

    Select the images in your album, use "Metadata > Batch Change", pick a suitable version name preset, select to apply the changes also to the master files, and that's it.

    then export the images you want to upload using their current version names. Then there will be no need to reimport.

    batchhange.png

    Regards

    Léonie

  • 8. Re: changing image file names
    hotwheels 22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    OK!

     

    thanks so much for helping with this.

     

    since i was used to name mangler and since images in each album are coming from different projects (and thus have all kinds of different names) - i was using Name Mangler with the files on the desktop which sort of lets me do a very highly customized remove and replace, or append, or prepend etcetera and this let me clean up some very messy file names while keeping /some/ part of the file name according to the original Project.

     

    i think your method is quicker and easier. it has the "disadvantage" of causing the file name of the file to be the same looking for all images in an Album but for any one of these images they may be the only image with this file name in the original project - but i am not so sure that this may not be actually an advantage for me at this point.

     

    anyway, i can see that i can redo what i did very quickly for with this method and i can also see that i can export the new file names and compare to the ones that i already changed...

     

    THANK YOU!!

     

    p.s. i guess i /could/ also see a nice suggestion for the developers to add a Find and Replace and an Append and Prepend option in this dialog if it is not already there and i am missing it. i mean, from what i can tell i have to use the default pulldowns and these do not exactly include these three options which i find very helpful in a lot of cases.

  • 9. Re: changing image file names
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,805 points)

    You are welcome, Jon.

    p.s. i guess i /could/ also see a nice suggestion for the developers to add a Find and Replace and an Append and Prepend option in this dialog if it is not already there and i am missing it.

    That is what the feedback form is for - http://www.apple.com/feedback/aperture.html

     

    Have you tried to edit the available presets? You can do append and prepend by arranging the items freely in the "format" strip. But the "find" would be heplful. Only this would require for Apple to include a full-fledged pattern matcher into the "Batch change" tools.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • 10. Re: changing image file names
    hotwheels 22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    really awesome help. thank you.

     

    i have printed out screenshots of the edit options in this dialog and will try and study them with the batch change help documentation.

     

    i can see there are some very powerful tools here...

     

    THANKS LEONIE

  • 11. Re: changing image file names
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,805 points)

    You are welcome, Jon!

     

    Season's greetings!

     

    Léonie

  • 12. Re: changing image file names
    hotwheels 22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    same!

     

    thanks for your awesome help.