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What are your thoughts on the New iTunes 11?

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  • DominiekV Calculating status...
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    Dec 18, 2012 11:59 AM (in response to Steven Dodds)

    Dear Mr. Dodds,

     

    I've been following the discussion for a while and i'm beginning to wonder why it is that you are so willing to defend this abomination. Are you perhaps one of the "programmers" who wrote this piece of "software"? Are you on the pay-roll of the compagny or just someone who has to have the last word even if you are so wrong?

     

    Clearly this version of itunes is not an improvement. So why do you keep saying it is a gift of god?

     

    If we must believe you then everyone is wrong and you have all the answers, read the posts. Maybe then you will see that the new is not what you say it is.

     

    Grts,

     

    Dominiek

  • davek0974 Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)
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    Dec 18, 2012 12:12 PM (in response to ejpre)

    Yes if they had just left the sidebar on as it was and not touched the cover art preview pane in the bottom left corner - this is vital and must be restored, then things might not be as bad.

     

    You can't just rip the software to bits and not expect a backlash.

     

    It appears to be a rushed release, something that should never be done, especially on a piece of core software.

  • Steven Dodds Level 1 Level 1 (75 points)
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    Dec 18, 2012 12:15 PM (in response to ejpre)

    "aesthetic changes with no benefit"

     

    Many people see/saw cover flow (in iTunes) as an aesthetic change/addition with no benefit...

     

    The side bar is still there, just not on by default. Turning it on however, disables some new features (out of redundancy or whatnot) such as how you can drag a song (or several) and the playlists slide in etc.  it's common practice on big updates to show you how things are now, and let you find how to. Make them like they where. (As much as they let you)  Am not happy with Apples often common chose to rip features out of things as people expense, but I bet many people will find they don't miss some things they are complaining about, if they just give the new way a chance. That's all I'm saying.  Maybe not, but if you just run away angry, how will you know?   It's happened to me and others I know many times. But often I come to the realization that the change isn't as bad as I initially thought. Often even growing to like it, if I give it a chance.

     

    Final Cut Pro X is a goos example.  Many people I work with (including myself) got a Big surprise that day, but now they wouldn't go back, and Apple did start adding missing features back. They made the choice to build a new foundation they could grow on.

     

    QuickTime player X however is not an improvement and has yet to be fixed...  So I still use 7 when X doesn't cut it...

  • Steven Dodds Level 1 Level 1 (75 points)
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    Dec 18, 2012 12:23 PM (in response to DominiekV)

    "Clearly this version of itunes is not an improvement. "

     

    That's your opinion and perhaps many others, and that is ok.

     

    I do not work for Apple, nor have I said this version is a gift from God.  I do not agree however that its a failure, and that's my opinion, and I should not be directly attacked for it.

  • djzbop Calculating status...
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    Dec 18, 2012 12:51 PM (in response to Porf)

    I don't understand why Apple generally feels like

    it needs to constantly reinvent the wheel. And

    Here's another cliche' for you....If it ain't broke,

    Don't fix it. The previous version was great, a

    thing of beauty. So why demolish it?  Here's

    yet another one of those cliches. ..KISS......

    Keep It Simple Stupid!!!  :(

  • ejpre Level 3 Level 3 (780 points)
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    Dec 18, 2012 12:53 PM (in response to Steven Dodds)

    Steven Dodds wrote:

     

    "aesthetic changes with no benefit"

     

    Many people see/saw cover flow (in iTunes) as an aesthetic change/addition with no benefit...

     

    The side bar is still there, just not on by default. Turning it on however, disables some new features (out of redundancy or whatnot) such as how you can drag a song (or several) and the playlists slide in etc.  it's common practice on big updates to show you how things are now, and let you find how to. Make them like they where. (As much as they let you) 

     

    I agree about cover flow.  I never saw any point to it if you own more than 10 albums.

     

    I see the fact that the playlists slide in from the right, rather than being there all the time on the left (or available with a right click) as something of a lateral move (no pun intended) at best - in fact, the very definition of "aesthetic change with no real benefit". Certainly not worth one minute's confusion.

     

    I've been using iTunes through several major revisions, and I've *never* had it come up in an unfamiliar mode.

     

    I know it's common practice to dump new features on you, and I've never met *anyone* who likes it who's not a software developer.  It's what happens when you let code monkeys go wild with no feedback from the end users.  A much better approach is to announce there's a new interface, and have a transitional period where people have the option of switching to it. 

  • kellyfromut Calculating status...
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    Dec 18, 2012 1:28 PM (in response to Steven Dodds)

    Hi Steven Dodds

     

    Just wanted to make you aware that this new version of iTunes, for those of use that still use Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.8, breaks authorization of purchased video's in Quicktime X as well as QuickTime 7 Pro. This is the biggest reason that I will not move forward to iTunes 11. I had to do a restore back to iTunes 10.7 using my timemachine backup, (which I always do, before any Apple update.)

     

    I know that if I were running Lion, (which you can't purchase anymore from the App's store) this may not be the case, as my friend is running Lion on his 2006 3Ghz tower and QuickTime, (both versions) do authorize purhased video. I never moved forward due to download issues with Apples server's at the time and now never can due to lack of availability of Lion, (no longer on the Apps store.)

     

    As for Mountian Lion, will not run on a 2006 Mac.

  • Steven Dodds Level 1 Level 1 (75 points)
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    Dec 18, 2012 1:35 PM (in response to kellyfromut)

    They really do need to give people stuck pre Lion and using hardware that is not Mountain Lion compatible, a way to move forward...  Legally... Without buying a new Mac.

    Both my macs would have been stuck like that on Snow had I not bought Lion...  New Mac is not an option just yet either...

    Go to an Apple Store if you can and ask them about it, or call one if you can't walk in.

    I'm sure you are not the only one in that situation.

  • JPHP Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Dec 18, 2012 1:46 PM (in response to Steven Dodds)

    Lion wasn't a good operating system. If your hardware won't run Mountain Lion, be thankful that you're still on Snow Leopard.

  • kellyfromut Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 18, 2012 2:12 PM (in response to JPHP)

    My friend says the same thing about Lion, (JPHP) kind of dodged a bullet there!

     

    I just want my quicktime to work when updating to the new iTunes, which it currently will not, (with purchased content from the iTunes Store.)

     

    I mostly use iTunes for syncing my iOs devices and as a media server for my Apple TV's, (not much else) so most of the other issues others are having I probably wouldn't notice. Not to say that there not important, because just as my issues with quicktime is important to me, I can fully understand how others feel abandoned, when Apple omits functionality in iTunes 11 or introduces new bugs.

  • nuno1959 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Dec 18, 2012 2:08 PM (in response to Porf)

    hi guys

     

    please DON'T forget to pass on your comments about iTunes11 to Apple themselves here :

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html

     

    that's the only way we might get back the features that matter to us, iTunes users

     

    cheers

  • kellyfromut Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 18, 2012 2:09 PM (in response to nuno1959)

    Trust me, I have given the feedback link, plenty to read over the past couple of weeks!!!

  • delilahblue Calculating status...
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    Dec 18, 2012 3:19 PM (in response to Porf)

    Hate it.  Apple took an excellent product that actually worked, and screwed it up.  Just because it wasn't "new" for awhile they had to fiddle with it. It's a **** mess is what it is!

  • MightEMouse Level 1 Level 1 (125 points)
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    Dec 18, 2012 3:42 PM (in response to ron App)

    What is wrong with Rap? Enlighten me please.

     

     

    -MightEMouse

  • Arkog Calculating status...
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    Dec 18, 2012 5:33 PM (in response to Porf)

    I admit that I never used Cover Flow, I never used the Art Work viewer, never used DJ and I have just a medium size library which is not too hard to handle. I understand people getting annoyed when they see things they liked just gone. Said that, I think some comments are exagerated, but I understand, because it happens to me too. I hate having to constantly get used to how programs look. Because this happens at least twice a month, that some of the programs you use daily has a new release. And with new release comes new look and new organization. It is most annoying. I do think developers should become more careful and avoid constantly modifying the design of their products only because to make them look new and so justify the new release. Design is now serving the purpose of making you think that you paid for a new product. But that is nonsense, and good functionalities are just being ripped away for the unnecessary need to constantly give consumers something new. To be honest, what is new in iTunes 11? From the technological point of view I see barely nothing. It just looks different and has some previous functionalities removed (Indeed I would call Cover Flow a commodity rather than a functionality.) Should that be called a new version? Not in my opinion. On the other hand guys, really, don't exagerate. It took me just one minute to make iTunes to look again as I like it, and I am not a geek.

     

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    On the other hand, I see many people complaining about buggy behaviour: lists do not open in new windows, failures by importing older stuff, movies missing. Sure, those are bugs which should not happen. It seems they have loosen the love for perfect detail, at least at the technical level, and that is sad.

     

    To what respects to me, and the way I use iTunes, it is just fine. It simply provides me with no reason forupgrading. If the "skip version" button were a choice, I would have pressed it and loose nothing.

     

    Best,

    A.

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