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Verizon Iphone 5 Not Receving Signals for GSM Overseas

11174 Views 64 Replies Latest reply: Jan 23, 2014 7:58 AM by Lawrence Finch RSS Branched to a new discussion.
  • Ranjit222 Calculating status...

    Hi nunnarkat,

    Parin11

     

     

    I am planning to get a verizon iphone 5 from usa had some queries about the same:

     

    1. As i dont have a verizon sim card i wont be able to update the baseband .

    2. Will vodafone 3g work fine in iphone 5 as i am currently using vodafone.

    3. And if 4g comes to india will it work fine.

  • nunnarkat Calculating status...

    Hi Ranjit222

     

    Point by point answer

     

    1. I don't think you will be able to update the baseband, I have tried with Vodafone sim it never updated, however with Verizon it update in a second.

    2. I haven't heard Vodafone doesn't work, make sure when you buy you have the upgraded baseband, else chances are it may not work

    3. 4G should work on Verizon, its frequencies are same as we have in India

     

    Fair advice, if you could get hands on AT&T its anytime a good choice, it can be unlocked upgraded and would work with any sim, except for 4G everything else works fine.

  • Rushabh1987 Calculating status...

    Hi Nunnarkat,

    Which carrier simcard can be used in india to update baseband?

     

    And what carrier simcard you would suggest for best use of iphone 5 in India?

     

    Thank you.

  • Aditya30 Calculating status...

    Hey all,

    I am a bit stuck here. If I have a iPhone 5 bought from US for use in India does the purchasing party in US have to pay for the contract? And if they dont pay for the contract what happens? I mean that does the company demand the hansdet be returned?

  • ateen11 Calculating status...

    Hi Parin,

     

    This is good news. How did you get the baseband to update to 13.1? When I have my Verizon SIM inserted, it says 13.3 and when I insert my Vodafone SIM it says 13.0 still.

     

    Thanks in advance!

  • wazzaiosdude Calculating status...

    Are you talking about Apple iOS update that updates carrier field to "Verizon 13.1"? Please let me know the steps to do and if Verizon SIM is required for this.

     

    Does it work on Airtel after doing this?

  • wazzaiosdude Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi nunnarkat,

    Yah AT&T iPhone 5 seems to be safe version to use in India(especially with Airtel). But do you think LTE will work on AT&T iPhone 5 in future?

     

    From what i read, Airtel uses 2300 MHz TD-LTE spectrum right now and both AT&T and Verizon iPhone 5 doesnt work on it. But 700 and 2100 MHz spectrum might be opened up by India for LTE in 2013. AT&T uses 700b(band 17) and Verizon uses 700c(band 13) plus 2100(band 1). Which one of this Airtel will use in future is question out there.

  • Aditya30 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hey parin11 and nunarkat, how did you get your iphone5 fron US?? And what did it cost??

  • Araje77 Calculating status...

    Okay so this is interesting.

    Airtel is bidding for 700Mhz band since its easier and low cost to implement. Once that is done, it would mean that A1428 will work LTE on Airtel network - maybe thats 2013 oe 2014, by which time we might get Iphone 6

     

    But at this point, ATT is the safest bet since it has the potential to latch on to Airtel LTE 700 band when it comes.

    ALso, the official unlocked iphone5 on Apple website is A1428.

     

    Also, today Airtel sells A1428 on their website and store.

  • zack7070 Calculating status...

    - 700Mhz spectrum is not opening up in India for the next 3 years.

    - This 700Mhz which might open up in 2015 for auction is different from the Verizon and att 700Mhz bands in the  US.  ATT LTE is in band 17, Verizon in band 13. This is band 44 (700 MHz APAC band).

    - Sprint in the US in band 25 ( PCS 1900Mhz)

    -So any hope of using the US 700Mhz bands supported iPhone for LTE in India is ruled out unless apple specifically includes the India specific bands

    -Current 4G (Airtel LTE) deployment in India is in band 40 (2300MHz) and this uses a different version of LTE than the ones used in the US and is known LTE-TDD.

    - The only time we would see Apple supporting this band is when China Mobile ( world's largest operator) deploy LTE. They use the same band as India and would be doing LTE-TDD

    - The closest chance for using 4G LTE in India on iPhone 5 is with LTE band 3 (1800Mhz). We "might" see some deployments in one to two years on this band. Videocon has recently made an announcement to this effect and have kicked up some interest in this space.

     

    Having said the above, got couple of questions  -

     

    1. Apple store currently sells Verizon iPhone 5 at full price. Per some earlier reports the GSM part in the Verizon iPhone 5 is unlocked - ie. it could be used with any GSM carrier for 2G/3G/4G etc depending on the band support. The question is that does it require the Verizon iPhone 5 to be activated on Verizon network first to be able to be used in the above fashion? In otherwords can I bring a new verizon iPhone 5 without activating on Verizon network and use with Indian GSM/3G carriers?

     

    2. On the Verizon iPhone 5 being actually working with SIM cards from Indian GSM operators - there are conflicting reports in the thread. Which all operators does it work with?

     

    Thanks

  • Lawrence Finch Level 7 Level 7 (24,605 points)

    zack7070 wrote:

     

     

    1. Apple store currently sells Verizon iPhone 5 at full price. Per some earlier reports the GSM part in the Verizon iPhone 5 is unlocked - ie. it could be used with any GSM carrier for 2G/3G/4G etc depending on the band support. The question is that does it require the Verizon iPhone 5 to be activated on Verizon network first to be able to be used in the above fashion? In otherwords can I bring a new verizon iPhone 5 without activating on Verizon network and use with Indian GSM/3G carriers?

     

    Yes, a Verizon iPhone must be activated on Verizon before it will work on GSM.

  • Araje77 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    VVerizon has it all covered. When I asked about there pre closure penalty of a contract they told me that there are 2 penalties. One is for the pre closure of the contract and other if you don't return the device. If you don't then there is another charge that makes this whole thing expensive than buying a stock unlocked phone.

     

    BY the way, apple sells unlocked iPhone 5 now for 649 + tax = 710 USD Roughly.

  • zack7070 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This info seems contradicting to what the user ndj916 have posted in another forum - pasted below from https://discussions.apple.com/message/20564509?tstart=0#20564509

     

    "you dont need to activate with verizon to use it unlocked, all you need is to connect it to itunes, it will activate, but you do not need to sign up for any service. just pop in your sim and your good. or just get a locked AT&T no contract iphone 5 from any apple store, just make sure you dont initially activate with the AT&T sim, just activate initially with a tmobile nano sim (free from all tmobile corporate stores) and it will be factory unlocked"

     

    It seems if you manage the activation part correctly, ( ie. activate via iTunes) the phone is unlocked for use with any GSM operator.

  • Drchintan26 Calculating status...

    Hi,

     

    Quick question.

     

    I understood that after updating baseband version to 13.1 with Verizon sim, the Airtel sim worked fine. However, does the data service (edge, 3G) works also fine with this airtel service?

     

    Appreciate your help

     

    Thanks

  • Sabhay Sardana Calculating status...

    If i manage to buy a verizon iPhone 5 from USA apple store without activating it $199 + tax & come back to India & try to activate it .

    My questions are :

    1) Will I am able to activate with any sim card ( Airtel / Vodafone )

    2) All of us know that verizon iPhone 5`s are Unlocked , then also I need to unlock it via third-party website or like gevey sim ?

    3) After doing this will I am will be treated as a criminal.

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