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  • kennererato123 Calculating status...
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    Dec 27, 2012 10:43 AM (in response to Lan_Holmes)

    It would be nice to transfer apps and music to another account.  When my daughter was younger she bought music on my account so I could monitor it.  Now she is older and I would like her to have her own but don't want her to have to repurchase what she wants to keep all over.  I don't like her music so I don't want it, would be great if I could transfer to her and get it off my ID.

     

    And implying that a simple transfer is an attempt to steal is just childish.

  • Allan Sampson Level 10 Level 10 (122,145 points)
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    Dec 27, 2012 10:57 AM (in response to kennererato123)

    There is nothing preventing her from transferring music that was purchased with your iTunes account to her computer and iOS devices. It can be transferred to her computer followed by deleting the music from your iTunes library on your computer.

  • Dah•veed Level 7 Level 7 (29,515 points)
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    Dec 27, 2012 2:54 PM (in response to kennererato123)

    If you burn the music to disc, it will remove the DRM and she can then do with it what she wishes.

    Mac mini, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), iPad 2, iPhone 5 (iOS 6)
  • jcolem2 Calculating status...
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    Dec 29, 2012 12:34 PM (in response to James Ward4)

    Just thought you guys would be interested to know....

     

    "You acknowledge that, because some aspects of the iTunes Service, iTunes Products, and administration of the Usage Rules entails the ongoing involvement of Apple, if Apple changes any part of or discontinues the iTunes Service, which Apple may do at its election, you may not be able to use iTunes Products to the same extent as prior to such change or discontinuation, and that Apple shall have no liability to you in such case."

     

    It seems to me that every single one of you that had something to say to me was wrong. 

     

    Also David, as far as your comment concerning the use of your content if Apple goes out of business or discontinues iTunes goes, it couldn't be further from the truth. You don't own anything in perpetuity:

     

    "iTunes is the provider of the Service, which permits you to purchase or rent a licence for digital content ("iTunes Products") for end user use only under the terms and conditions set forth in this Agreement. iTunes is not the provider of the iTunes application or of the iPad, iPod or iPhone."

     

    And:

     

    "You agree that the iTunes Products are provided to you by way of a license only. You understand that the Service and certain iTunes Products include a security framework using technology that protects digital information and limits your use of iTunes Products to certain usage rules (“Security Framework”) established by iTunes and its licensors and that, whether or not iTunes Products are limited by security technology, you shall use iTunes Products in compliance with the applicable usage rules established by iTunes and its licensors (“Usage Rules”), and that any other use of the iTunes Products may constitute a copyright infringement. Any security technology is an inseparable part of the iTunes Products. iTunes reserves the right to modify the Usage Rules for future purchases on the Service at any time. However, such changes will not apply to iTunes Products that you have already purchased. Any change to the Usage Rules will be communicated to you. In the event that you refuse to accept the new Usage Rules, you will no longer be able to acquire iTunes Products from the Service."

     

    But you guys wouldn't know this because you never bother to question or read the same things you told me I didn't read or should read because I'm "clueless" and a "whiner."  Thanks for further confirming my belief that you are all blindly following and accepting everything Apple provides without question or concern.

  • Scotthack1963 Calculating status...
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    Dec 29, 2012 1:54 PM (in response to jcolem2)

    I have a large CD collection "pre-Itunes."  I keep the CDs because I own them and can do with them as I please, (I know I can't duplicate and sell them, so don't go there.)  I have purchased music from Itunes at times out of conveinance, knowing that I was giving up quite a bit of freedom and control for those songs.  In fact, I have limited how much, and what I buy from Itunes for that reason and don't buy anything that I wouldn't be very distressed to have "lost."

     

    It seems to me that the solution that best suits me is to purchase CD's, more often older and used ones, second hand stores, garage sales, etc and rip them myself, keep the CD for the future if I need to re-rip it if the  technology has changed.

     

    I have vinyl albums that I am recording digitally with the properly equipped turntable.  As long as you physically own the item there is hope that you can keep the content and adjust as the technology adjusts. 

     

    What I don't like the idea of, is if they ever do away with the physical product and ONLY provide "license" to listen to it.  Then you will no longer have ANY control whatsoever.

     

    That all being said.  It has been a long time since I have had need to rip any CDs. When I originally ripped them to MP3s that was it.  No more control over it than if I had taped it with a cassette recorder.  I don't know, it may be that any current "ripping" software now has aspects to it that "install" digital protection and therefore more control.  I haven't kept up with it.  I haven't needed to because the bulk of my library was built before all this and I'm pretty happy with it.  Adding to it is simply a luxury.  In fact I'm more in mode of trying to thin out the extra junk I collected along the way that I never listen to and is just taking up space on my hard drive, (and backups, s, s, )

     

    I'm 49, and I remember thinking in the mid 90's, "Wouldn't it be neat if you could somehow collect all the music you liked in one place on a computer (using a '386 computer a friend and I threw together) and have something like a jukebox to play whatever you felt like at the time."  Too bad I was not technically adept enough to make it happen myself, because that's exactly what has happened. 

     

    So, in the end, we are incredibly lucky to even be having this "argument."  Most of you probably have a library big enough to play CONTINUOUSLY for days to WEEKS or more (mine would play continuously for about 7.5 days, pretty small).  UNHEARD of when I was younger, (probably the age most of you are - no disrespect intended)

     

    So enjoy!  As I said, you're quite lucky to even have this problem.

  • Dah•veed Level 7 Level 7 (29,515 points)
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    Dec 29, 2012 2:02 PM (in response to jcolem2)
    However, such changes will not apply to iTunes Products that you have already purchased.

    It's important to read every line. No matter what changes Apple makes for the future, Apple states that it does not apply to the content that I have already bought.

    Mac mini, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), iPad 2, iPhone 5 (iOS 6)
  • Dah•veed Level 7 Level 7 (29,515 points)
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    Dec 29, 2012 2:37 PM (in response to Scotthack1963)

    What I don't like the idea of, is if they ever do away with the physical product and ONLY provide "license" to listen to it.  Then you will no longer have ANY control whatsoever.

    You misunderstand the concept, it is not a license to listen, it is a license to a copy of the content. And if the content is "protected" by DRM, which most iTunes music today is not, if you burn a backup to disc the DRM is removed in the process. All of the music that you have backed up to disc would never have any restriction as long as you have the technology to reproduce it.

    Mac mini, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), iPad 2, iPhone 5 (iOS 6)
  • jcolem2 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 29, 2012 8:51 PM (in response to Dah•veed)

    You pulled a line out of the whole thing that doesn't even relate, and have applied it arbitrarily. If you would actually take the time to read everything in its entirety, as you have critized me for not doing, you would realize that the changes apple is referring to, would be to the usage rules you have already accepted, which outline the usage rights you have for each app. You have already accepted these terms and also outlined on those terms is the fact that apple can discontinue iTunes services and in the process of doing so will essentially void your licenses as they are required, by the current terms you have already accepted, to be used on an authorized device. It is a caveat if the license agreement that you have with third party providers who are allowed to sell their apps through apple. Apple is acting as a broker, but because they are a closed ecosystem and also act as the authorizing agent, through iTunes, and require you to authorize your device through iTunes, which is explicitly outlined in the usage rights, then your license is terminated. It is this usage right, of requiring you to use the content on authorized devices only, that would void your license agreement. No iTunes? No authorization. Despite having your device not connected to the Internet, you would still be required to erase, or destroy, any apps should the license be terminated. And I know you like following the rules David. You love doing everything apple says to do, so you would happily delete your apps if iTunes was discontinued, because otherwise, you'd be breaking the user agreement to only use apps on authorized devices. And since iTunes doesn't exist, you can't authorize its use.

     

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  • Dah•veed Level 7 Level 7 (29,515 points)
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    Dec 29, 2012 9:00 PM (in response to jcolem2)

    Since you can no longer be civil, AFAIAC, the conversation with you is over.

     

    Go ahead and misread it as you please. My content is mine in perpetuity. It is all safely backed up and cannot be taken from me. Period.

    Mac mini, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), iPad 2, iPhone 5 (iOS 6)
  • Scotthack1963 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 31, 2012 5:50 PM (in response to Dah•veed)

    Does it have to be burned to a CD?  I would imagine that just backing it up to an external HD wouldn't remove the DRM, otherwise it woudn't be any protection at all would it?

     

    Thanks for your input

  • Dah•veed Level 7 Level 7 (29,515 points)
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    Dec 31, 2012 6:37 PM (in response to Scotthack1963)

    Backing up doesn't remove the DRM. Only burning to disc.

    Mac mini, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), iPad 2, iPhone 5 (iOS 6)
  • Oisinn Calculating status...
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    Jan 10, 2013 9:24 AM (in response to Lan_Holmes)

    Hey I figured out how to transfer apps, I have an iPod Touch 4g filled with apps I got over the years but I share an account with my whole family so I set up a new ID When I recently got my MacBook Pro. In iTunes, I can't remember how to get here on windows but on Mac, go to file in the top left corner, scroll over devices, look for your iPad and click transfer Purchases

  • Dah•veed Level 7 Level 7 (29,515 points)
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    Jan 10, 2013 9:54 AM (in response to Oisinn)

    You haven't transfered the content from one Apple ID to another, you have transfered them from one device to another, they are still part of the acquiring Apple ID and always will be.

    Mac mini, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), iPad 2, iPhone 5 (iOS 6)
  • mbt2 Calculating status...
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    Jan 12, 2013 5:19 AM (in response to Dah•veed)

    Getting back to the original question of giving an ipad app to another ID user.....can't you simply go to your itunes folder and download the .ipa file for the app and load that file to the other person's computer? I recently purchased Keynote, Numbers & Pages for my daughter's ipad under my ID - not realizing until now that I could have "Gifted this App" to her when I purchased it at the Apple Store. Now I have these apps on my computer - under my ID - and I don't own an ipad. Yes...my mistake but from a logical standpoint, it sounds doable to just transfer the file to her computer. I just don't know if it'll work on her ipad if she tries to open the app. (I dont want to mess things up on her new ipad)

     

    My question is: if I download the actual .ipa file from my computer's itunes/mobile app folder and load it to the itunes/mobile app folder on her computer, will it work on her ipad when she syncs it to her itunes account with her ID? Sounds convoluted but theoretically - shouldn't it work without having her sign in to itunes under my ID?

  • Dah•veed Level 7 Level 7 (29,515 points)
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    Jan 12, 2013 11:35 AM (in response to mbt2)

    First off, don't drag & drop the .ipa file from your iTunes Media/Mobile Apps folder to the same folder on her computer, it will just sit there with iTunes not recognizing it because you snuck it in under the fence. Drag & drop it onto the iTunes app on her computer so that iTunes stores it where it belongs and has record that it exists in the Media Library.

     

    Second, yes you can do this, but you will have to authorize iTunes on her computer (Store menu) to use content from your Apple ID. And the app will always be your content on her computer and iOS devices and will require your ID password to be updated.

    Mac mini, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), iPad 2, iPhone 5 (iOS 6)
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