9 Replies Latest reply: Dec 31, 2012 9:01 PM by rgrodevant
John Verne Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)

I'm seeing similar reports to this, but nothing that fits exactly.

 

I have a Airport setup with an extreme and two expresses. One express only does Airtunes (it is an older model at 6.3) and is hooked up to the stereo. I can talk to it via ethernet. The other express extends the wireless from the extreme. Both are at 7.6.1.

 

I run iTunes mostly on a Mac Pro. Because Apple system descriptions are stupid, I have no idea what "year" it is. I bought it a few years ago. I don't care about Airplay Mirroring. I have an Apple TV on the network, but that doesn't enter into this discussion.

 

Prior to Mountain Lion I would choose one or more speakers to output music to. Usually, I select "Living Room" and the 6.3 express will stream to the stereo input.

 

Now with Mountain Lion I cannot select any remote speakers. It spins on 'Connecting to "Living Room"...' for a long time and then just dismisses this dialogue. No error message is ever given. Nothing in the console log other than "Stopping AirPlay". Same thing for any other AirPlay device in the iTunes speaker drop-down.

 

During my troubleshooting, I ended up in the Sound Preferences, and could see "Living Room" in the Output panel. If I selected that, iTunes would select the same output in its "speakers" thingy. No other AirTunes/AirPlay devices were there. I changed all airport devices so that they used "auto" (and "host", if that was available) IPv6 and now all three AirPlay devices show up in the Sound Prefs, but I can no longer select them. The Mac is already using auto IPv6.

 

So, I guess if I switch everything back to IPv6 local I might be able to choose one of the devices as the default output device, but this is pretty much an egregious hack.

 

This might seem minor, but this is the first time I've considered rolling back to a previous release.

  • 1. Re: Mountain Lion breaks working AirTunes setup
    John P. Level 4 Level 4 (1,145 points)

    I've had similar issues with iTunes 10.6.3 under ML. I did an in-place upgrade and 99% of it has been running great, except iTunes. I was running 10.6.3 under Lion 10.7.4 before and had no problems with it; the problems started after the ML upgrade.

     

    A simple reinstall of iTunes 10.6.3 appears to have fixed my issues with AirPlay and with iOS device syncing.

  • 2. Re: Mountain Lion breaks working AirTunes setup
    John Verne Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)

    Huh. Can't hurt; might help. I'll give it a try.

     

    [Later]

     

    Yup, that fixed it. Nice one.

  • 3. Re: Mountain Lion breaks working AirTunes setup
    MadMacs0 Level 4 Level 4 (3,735 points)

    John Verne wrote:

     

    I have a Airport setup with an extreme and two expresses. One express only does Airtunes (it is an older model at 6.3) and is hooked up to the stereo.

    I see you seem to have solved it by rolling back iTunes. Another users was having a similar issue with his Express 802.11g running 6.3 firmware and it evidently doesn't support IPv6 which seems to be required by the new iTunes for some reason.  In any case I thought you might want to know in case that Express causes other IPv6 related issues when you need to switch over down the road.

  • 4. Re: Mountain Lion breaks working AirTunes setup
    John Verne Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)

    MadMacs0 wrote:

     

    John Verne wrote:

     

    I have a Airport setup with an extreme and two expresses. One express only does Airtunes (it is an older model at 6.3) and is hooked up to the stereo.

    I see you seem to have solved it by rolling back iTunes. Another users was having a similar issue with his Express 802.11g running 6.3 firmware and it evidently doesn't support IPv6 which seems to be required by the new iTunes for some reason.  In any case I thought you might want to know in case that Express causes other IPv6 related issues when you need to switch over down the road.

     

    No, I did not roll back iTunes. I reinstalled the same latest version.

     

    Yeah, the older express doesn't understand IPv6, but any mixture of auto and local for IPv6 support on the other devices seems to have no bearing on this specific problem.

  • 5. Re: Mountain Lion breaks working AirTunes setup
    DBSor Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have exactly the same problem, but reinstalling itunes didn't solve it. Did you remove some parts of itunes before re-installing it ? Airtunes works fine with iPhone and iPad, but since MLupgrade, I still see the express in the itunes list of speakers but when I select it, it just try to connect few minutes and then, the window disappears. Any idea ? Thank you.

  • 6. Re: Mountain Lion breaks working AirTunes setup
    DBSor Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I reinstall itunes and reboot a second time and everthing seems to work fine now, sorry for double post and my poor french english.

  • 7. Re: Mountain Lion breaks working AirTunes setup
    John Verne Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)

    The problem came back eventually. It appeared that waking from sleep would cause the problem to come back.

     

    A reboot would fix it temporarily until the next sleep.

     

    I was sure it was a network issues, so I disabled IPv6 on all interfaces that AirPlay could use, and re-ordered my network devices so that the main ethernet was first (it was not, for some reason). This seems to have fixed it for good.

  • 8. Re: Mountain Lion breaks working AirTunes setup
    DBSor Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you for the response.

    You are right, I have to reboot the mac to recover Airtunes after several sleeps under 10.8.

    Does someone know if 10.8.1 update solved this problem ? It seems to work now.

    If the problem reappears, I will try to disable IPv6 on my airport extreme and express to avoid this problem.

  • 9. Re: Mountain Lion breaks working AirTunes setup
    rgrodevant Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    You can add me to the "everything works in snow leopard and lion, but not in mountain lion" choir. I realize this is an old thread, but its got 1100 hits and I'm one of the people who was out there searching and frantically trying to solve this today.

     

    In my case I couldn't see my Bonjour printer (HP Deskjet 3520) /or/ use AirTunes to stream to wireless audio to my Harmon Kardon AVR-1700 anymore.

     

    I have drives laying around with SL and Lion, and everything works in both OS'es. I'd read through forums for about an hour finding similar complaints and only a few solutions, so let me chime in with my results:

     

    When I tried an Ethernet cable I could actually see my printer and stereo.

     

    What fixed all of this for me was switching from a 17-character wifi password and "WPA-PSK[TKIP]+WPA2-PSK[AES]" setup to "WPA2-PSK[AES]" and ... we'll call it a "shorter" password.

     

    I'm a little incredulous about this, but I can consistently break it by reverting to the old method/password even though my macbook has no trouble accessing webpages with either setup.

     

    I'm using a dreadful Netgear N150 Rangemax that was apparently so well-loved that the previous tenants of my apartment left it on the livingroom floor.

     

    FWIW I have a late 2011MBP that allegedly supports Airplay not that I've tried it or care, I just want to stream tunes to my stereo. Anyway I've just read through a lot of ranting about an Apple conspiracy against non-Airplay (pre-2011) devices, so I felt obligated to mention that I don't fall into that category.