7 Replies Latest reply: Jan 3, 2013 1:00 PM by Daaq
Daaq Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Why are the only profiles in the preset avatar set for the support site male profiles?

 

Was just wondering really, since it is sort of a sexist presumption to assume only males have questions to ask. Ohhh, that's right. The female users can use one of the "cute" icons.

 

Bleah.

  • 1. Re: Why are the only silhouettes in the default avatar set for the support site male?
    babowa Level 7 Level 7 (23,280 points)

    Are you referring to the greyish head/shoulders pic? This one?

     

    Screen Shot 2013-01-03 at 11.23.27 AM.png

    Since there is no hair or other features visible at all - just a head and shoulders, I'd like to hear the logic behind your assumption.

  • 2. Re: Why are the only silhouettes in the default avatar set for the support site male?
    Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,470 points)

    The profile Babowa pointed to is, as far as I can see, the only 'non-pictorial' support profile available. It is a subjective judgement whether it shows the view seen from behind of a male or female, and is probably intended to be neutral. Not all posters wish to reveal what gender they are.

     

    When you reach a certain level you can use your own avatar of choice.

  • 3. Re: Why are the only silhouettes in the default avatar set for the support site male?
    Daaq Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    There are actually three, one flat, one 3-D and one "group".

     

    And it is really not using an avatar of my choice, so much as the matter of using the visual representation of the word "he" as a gender neutral avatar. And yes, traditionally masculine pronouns in the English language are supposed to be gender neutral. But supposing them to be so doesn't make them so.

     

    Interesting though that people are much quicker to defend what is than consider any form of more balanced set of offerings.

     

    So a counter argument: Why not a "gender neutral" avatar that might be female or might be a long-haired male?

     

    But an interesting question: Why do you assume the image is seen from behind? Fair bet the image started as a mug shot from the front and was tweaked and massaged out to a gray neutrality, and it very much meant to represent, from the front, a generic male office worker ensconced in a casual office setting.

     

    Though, to be honest, an argument can be made that gendering the avatar can be considered sexist either way, since it has to play on stereotypes to be recognizable. Thus the problem with a long-haired male, or a female with what appears to be a hairstyle I haven't seen on women anywhere outside of retirement homes or gathered around pool tables in select bars in the area dressed in red plaid flannel shirts with the sleeves rolled up. So perhaps the solution is to remove all evidence of gender: the cues to short, somewhat wavy hair trimmed to stubble on the sides (who knows, maybe it really is a mullet), the visual appearance of a raised collar (blouse collars tend to sit flat), and aim for something more abstracted.

     

    Either way, the accusation stands.

  • 4. Re: Why are the only silhouettes in the default avatar set for the support site male?
    babowa Level 7 Level 7 (23,280 points)

    Why do you assume the image is seen from behind?

     

    I did not assume. I did not say anything about being seen from behind.

     

    Either way, the accusation stands.

     

    You are entitled to your opinion; I prefer to spend my time in a meaningul way.

     

    Good luck.

  • 5. Re: Why are the only silhouettes in the default avatar set for the support site male?
    boobooboobooboo Level 3 Level 3 (870 points)

    Dumbest...post...ever...

  • 6. Re: Why are the only silhouettes in the default avatar set for the support site male?
    steve359 Level 6 Level 6 (12,040 points)

    JayCampbell38 wrote:

     

    Dumbest...post...ever...

     

    Watch out for the far-more-common-than-occasional threads from a user who signed up one day to post dozens of link to football or soccer games being played.

  • 7. Re: Why are the only silhouettes in the default avatar set for the support site male?
    Daaq Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The response was directed at Klaus1 who does describe it as the back of a head, though the analysis of the image does address your question as well.

     

    As for time. Perhaps it is not that critical an issue for many people, I just expected Apple to be a bit more on the ball on this one. Suppose I should know better by now.

     

    As for myself, I will keep providing a balanced selection of generic avatars in my own work. It is just plain good form.

     

    Clearly, cleary it is a mullet!