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MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

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  • Jazmodo Calculating status...
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    Jan 3, 2013 8:00 AM (in response to mittense)

    Hi there guys, I'm a Macbook Pro Retina 15" owner, purchased october last year. I had an LG screen which started to show ghosting/image retention issues. I wasn't personally worried by this, but over christmas I developed 2 patches of 4+ dead pixels & I've just had the screen replaced by the Apple Store in Milton Keynes (England). I've just checked it & Terminal is now showing that I have a Samsung Display. Just thought this could be of use as info to some people

  • gaborfromszigethalom Calculating status...
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    Jan 3, 2013 8:04 AM (in response to saytheenay)

    I think it is no point.

    First of all I checked that, you are right, the left fan is faster than right.

    But. I had an LG display (of course, with IR:)), and I had also a Samsung display. The LG didn't show similar phenomenon, and the Samsung had yellowed part on the right side.

    Plus... when I switch on the rMBP with the current display, the yellowed part apperas immediately... So, I don't think the fan speed is in connection with yellow part of screen.

     

    I hope that will be changed tomorrow and I will get an useable display after this crazy situation.

  • RoozbehB Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 3, 2013 8:14 AM (in response to gaborfromszigethalom)

    The screen technology that they are using is not full LED and it is only LED backlit. LG has spread the LEDs in for the back lit uniformly and the LED they are using is gallium arsenide and hence it has some kind of bluish colour but the LED that Samsung is using is placed in the middle of the screen and it's cheaper material like silicon based LED and that's why you see some kind of yellowish colour!! it's just a choice that if you like warmer colour or not.. if you look for true colour, you should stop looking at it in retina displays and you should go and look at premium products of huge companies like Sony which are master of video/audio industry for ages.. the best true colour and gammut among all laptop screens is in Sony Vaio Z series..

  • BarrettF77 Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)
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    Jan 3, 2013 8:17 AM (in response to RoozbehB)

    RoozbehB wrote:

     

    The screen technology that they are using is not full LED and it is only LED backlit. LG has spread the LEDs in for the back lit uniformly and the LED they are using is gallium arsenide and hence it has some kind of bluish colour but the LED that Samsung is using is placed in the middle of the screen and it's cheaper material like silicon based LED and that's why you see some kind of yellowish colour!! it's just a choice that if you like warmer colour or not.. if you look for true colour, you should stop looking at it in retina displays and you should go and look at premium products of huge companies like Sony which are master of video/audio industry for ages.. the best true colour and gammut among all laptop screens is in Sony Vaio Z series..

     

    They are not backlit displays.  They both are edge lit technologies.  There is a slim membrane that runs the back of the LCD that allows light to be dispersed evently.  There is no Apple LCD on the market that is LED backlit.  It requires the LEDs actually be behind the panel, but instead they are on opposite sides of the screen. 

  • miclar1 Calculating status...
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    Jan 3, 2013 8:35 AM (in response to samfromia)

    Mine is a 15" rMBP / 2.7GHz  / 16GB / 784GB / Production Week 41 / with LG screen bought Nov 18th. I've used it extensively every day, including watching a movie or two in the evening, and NO defect of any kind detected to date.

     

    When I stumbled upon this thread after my 14-day return period had expired, I decided to continue using it the "normal" way and refrain from trying to provoque the IR issue by the various methods described in this thread. I certanily would not use a fixed dark grey background with a fixed contrasting image or window over a long period when working the "normal" way.

     

    However, I decided to take some precautions to avoid or delay IR if my screen is "doomed" to have it eventually. I'm sort of confident that within my applecare period they will have resolved the screen issues and that the replacement screens available later will be good ones.

     

    So, I've been using a screensaver to come on after 5 mn when I leave my desk to get coffee or other. Also, for backgrounds, have been using a series of ligth colored abstract painting types which change randomly every 5sec. I've imported the abstract series that came from Leopard and found more on the web. When working with multiple windows open or a full screen you very soon don't notice the rapid changes.

  • andiruleu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 3, 2013 8:41 AM (in response to miclar1)

    miclar1 wrote:

     

    Mine is a 15" rMBP / 2.7GHz  / 16GB / 784GB / Production Week 41 / with LG screen bought Nov 18th. I've used it extensively every day, including watching a movie or two in the evening, and NO defect of any kind detected to date.

     

    When I stumbled upon this thread after my 14-day return period had expired, I decided to continue using it the "normal" way and refrain from trying to provoque the IR issue by the various methods described in this thread. I certanily would not use a fixed dark grey background with a fixed contrasting image or window over a long period when working the "normal" way.

     

    However, I decided to take some precautions to avoid or delay IR if my screen is "doomed" to have it eventually. I'm sort of confident that within my applecare period they will have resolved the screen issues and that the replacement screens available later will be good ones.

     

    So, I've been using a screensaver to come on after 5 mn when I leave my desk to get coffee or other. Also, for backgrounds, have been using a series of ligth colored abstract painting types which change randomly every 5sec. I've imported the abstract series that came from Leopard and found more on the web. When working with multiple windows open or a full screen you very soon don't notice the rapid changes.

     

    Yup you're right, if you don't leave the background gray, you won't see anything... however, I was also in the same position, but to a lot of macbook users, they have external monitors. I do a lot of programming and video/media editing, so I'm often having a static page on my laptop when I work on my external monitor. And paying for $2000+ for a product that has burn-in issues, is not acceptable in my standards...

     

    As the time progresses, you'll start noticing the burn-in issues not only on gray backgrounds, but you'll start seeing it on regular window screens. This is why I returned mine.

  • Spetsnazos Calculating status...
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    Jan 3, 2013 11:28 AM (in response to mittense)

    If you guys think that there will be any changes to the display in the next iteration you are seriously fooling yourselves. 

     

    I think most of us can agree that the form factor and overall shape of the laptop will not change at all in the next iteration.  Apple cannot possibly make it any thinner without serious sacrifices. 

     

    The screen manufacturer is not going to change because why?  It's quite obvious actually, because if LG really DID improve their displays, they would of shipped them to Apple as replacements for repairs.  Instead, you got Samsung displays as the replacements(look at the part #).   Apple is not likely to stick with Samsung much longer, especially with all the negative talks lately.

     

    So you can wait till the next rev all you want but don't expect IR to get any better or worse.  It will likely be the same thing and Apple will just tell us all that it's fine and dandy.

     

    What you should expect in the next revision:

    -Haswell CPU for better battery life and slightly better performance on the integrated card

    -Likely the same eGPU but maybe something better in terms of battery life(not performance).  The 650M is a pretty good card considering this is Apple we are talking about.

    -Possibly more storage space for a lower price.

     

    I have a 15" rMBP with the samsung display and I returned the first LG I got because I don't wan't to deal with IR.  I have no delussions that they will somehow miraculously change the displays altogether by the next revision.  It takes a LONG time to develop the dye's and test them before releasing them in IPS panels.  I don't forseee LG doing this anytime soon.

     

    Realize this, Apple released the 13" with IR, wellllllll after reports and all of us started complaining about the 15".  They either don't care or think its acceptable. 

     

    There is no laptop on the market that currently competes with the 15" rMBP in terms of a good mix between performance, battery life, display and form factor.

  • andiruleu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 3, 2013 11:31 AM (in response to Spetsnazos)

    meh. I'll wait and see what happens.

  • andiruleu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 3, 2013 11:52 AM (in response to andiruleu)

    Only reason I liked apple was because of its OS... now I'mma have to go to Ubuntu. Thank you Apple, for allowing me to purchase my first MacBook and then giving me the experience of returning it. I don't think Steve Jobs would ever let this happen. Tim Cook just can't be Steve Jobs...

  • samfromia Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 3, 2013 3:16 PM (in response to busichio)

    Went to my local apple store today. Tried out the 15 inch MacBook Pro and found that it had a code starting with the letters LSN. Is that an LG or a Samsung display?

  • ixdnl Calculating status...
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    Jan 3, 2013 3:17 PM (in response to samfromia)

    That's Samsung.

  • samfromia Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 3, 2013 3:29 PM (in response to ixdnl)

    I wonder if I should buy one now or wait a few more months. This laptop is a dream machine for me. It's so fast, so thin, so light, and has a wonderful screen.

  • Jajaba Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 3, 2013 3:31 PM (in response to RoozbehB)

    Really?  So I guess the fact that Sony uses IPS panels from Samsung may be a surprise to you.  As a matter of fact the primary supplier of high end professsional (wide gamut) IPS displays is LG.  They make all the 21"+ RGB IPS panels for Eizo, LaCie, NEC and Dell and others.

  • samfromia Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 3, 2013 3:35 PM (in response to Jajaba)

    Yeah, I was a dell user until 2006 then my P.C was not working very well. At that time, macs had just started using intel processors so on June 15,2006 I switched to a 15 inch MacBook Pro and now own the 17 inch MacBook Pro from June 2009 and need a new laptop and have decided to get the 15 inch MacBook Pro with Retina display but this thread caught me off guard.

     

    I have been a Mac user since June 15,2006 and will NEVER go back to a P.C

     

    Once you switch to a Mac, you never want to go back

  • ixdnl Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 3, 2013 3:35 PM (in response to samfromia)

    I'd wait. While I don't completely regret my decision to purchase this Macbook, at some point it's just too much of a hassle to deal with if you end up with display issues.

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