Currently Being ModeratedJan 2, 2013 4:54 PM (in response to mynameismyname)
Not certain, but this can fix myriad Mail problems...
Safe Boot from the HD, (holding Shift key down at bootup), it will try to repair your Disk Directory while the spinning radian is happening, so let it go, run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, then move this folder & file to the Desktop.
Move this Folder to the Desktop...
Move this file to the Desktop...
If that doesn't do it and you can afford to redo all your Rules, try these & reboot...
Note, in 10.5 & up /Users/YourUserName/Library/Caches/Mail/ may or may not exist.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 2, 2013 10:09 PM (in response to BDAqua)
Thanks, BDA. So basically repairing permission should do the trick... I THINK I once solved it doing that (repair permission, though using Cocktail), but I don't believe I did the deletion of the Library/Caches/Mail/ folder and /Library/Mail/Envelope Index file...
I will give it a try and come back to report....
Currently Being ModeratedJan 4, 2013 10:40 PM (in response to mynameismyname)
The most important thing is to first Safe Boot Or Repair the Disk BEFORE Repairing Permissisions.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 4, 2013 11:00 PM (in response to BDAqua)
Yes, I did a safe-boot, and then went for repairing permissions. It worked, your first idea, after the repair deleting the foilder and file you suggested. Once I rebooted Mail took quite some time to update itself, rebuild all my folders.
Then I tested again "viewing my replies" -- and they all showed up as they should.
HOWEVER, mail got mixed up, regarding hundreds, and even thousands of received emails that were originally opened, read, and deleted —— regarding them as UNREAD. So my TRASH folder, in which I keep emails that were read and deleted (sent to trash) -- which I still keep there "just in case" (I do find myself occasionally going back to deleted emails to check something, and I keep a year-worth of those) --- that folder showed almost TWO THOUSANDS of "unread" emails.... When I open any other folder, it suddenly shows a number of unread messages (one folder has 72 emails, and 12 as "unread")... Then my "Draft" folder shows "172" next to the icon, even though opening that folder shows NONE of them as unread...
So I achieved what I wanted, but still, I stand behind my claim, Mail is buggy....
...Or maibe it can't handle the large number of email I let it keep?...
Currently Being ModeratedJan 5, 2013 12:07 AM (in response to mynameismyname)
Mail is a bit buggy, like every Apple App, including the OS, but consider not moving things you may ever want to view, not to the Trash, but to some new folder you create, & empty the Trash in Mail.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 5, 2013 9:59 AM (in response to BDAqua)
My Trash folder has currently, after deleting all of 2011, over 11,000 messages.... Do you think it is a cause for trouble? Is it too much for Mail to handle? Do you think it has anything to do with Mail now frivolously difining some already read-emails as unread?
The thing is, Spam is already, automatically being deleted and flushed out of the system (thanks to SpamSieve), so the messages I do get are mostly from clients, most of them I see advantage in keeping for a while, though maybe not a full year, as I do now.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 5, 2013 10:30 AM (in response to mynameismyname)
Personally, I'd make a 2011 folder for all 2011 eMails, a 2012 folder for 2012 eMails, etc.
I don't think the number is too high, but have never seen that many in the Trash folder.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 5, 2013 10:55 AM (in response to BDAqua)
So better have multiple folders with less emails per, rather than lots in a single folder, especially a folder that's constantly being accessed and used, like the Trash folder? If you say yes, I wouldn't argue, it does make sense... and it's not a big deal to just move all my 2012 emails into a new folder.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 5, 2013 3:44 PM (in response to mynameismyname)
I'm not sure it's the problem, but I'd start with that.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 5, 2013 4:16 PM (in response to BDAqua)
Ok, I already did that. Now my Trash folder has only stuff from 2013.
Thanks, BDAqua !