Currently Being ModeratedJan 8, 2013 8:16 PM (in response to shai_polsci)
There are to many reports of second-hand iPhones that were jailbroken or stolen from original owners, or other things very illegal or just actions that leave the phones as "bricks" whenever something as routine as "update"I is attempted.
Only Apple-original phones have any guarantee of being reliable enough for your aunt.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 8, 2013 8:33 PM (in response to shai_polsci)
steve359 is exactly right.
"If it's too good to be true, it probably is not true." The unlocked iPhone 4 costs US$450 in the Apple Store in the U.S. If you pay much (or possibly any) less than that, you may well be getting a jailbroken or stolen phone.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 8, 2013 8:42 PM (in response to shai_polsci)
This I say not as "punishment", but as I would do for my family:
Your aunt/family deserves a replacement that is as good as or better than what she had.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 9, 2013 4:29 PM (in response to shai_polsci)
Currently Being ModeratedJan 9, 2013 4:34 PM (in response to shai_polsci)
Does your aunt have the insurance plan? Most people do. It is $100 or $160 usd for a replacement iPhone under the insurance plan. You just need a police report that it was stolen. That is your best bet. Pay her the money for the replacement and she will have a brand new iPhone that definitely works in the US.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 9, 2013 6:10 PM (in response to shai_polsci)
Second hand is still second hand.
Just give her the money to buy it in US if you cannot find it there.
She deserves new, in my opinion.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 9, 2013 6:17 PM (in response to iBushPilot)
What insurance plan are you referring to?
Currently Being ModeratedJan 9, 2013 6:32 PM (in response to deggie)
The one offered by your service provider. You pay $8-$10 a month on your phone bill for the insurance and it works like any other. You submit a claim and they send you a new phone.
As an aside, Steve359, I am not sure anyone is asking for your judgment or personal opinion. In fact, it is not helping solve the problem, which is a new phone on a limited budget. I respect your position, but no need to impose your family value in a tech support blog.
Besides, to make the aunt whole and return her to the position she was in, a used iPhone is sufficient. Unless it was a brand new iPhone that was lost.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 9, 2013 6:36 PM (in response to iBushPilot)
My service provider didn't offer it when I bought my original iPhone and I know few people who pay for that through their provider. One needs to read carefully if they do buy it, many of them have a theft limitation, either they don't cover it at all or they provider a $50 payment.
$10 per month for the insurance is too steep for me, in two years you've paid out $240, more than the cost of the a new phone if you upgrade.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 9, 2013 9:28 PM (in response to deggie)
Verizon's offers full theft and loss protection. I am an attorney and tend to read fine print :)
The $8 a month is nominal compared to the benefit and peace of mind. I have had it on all my phones and typically you have to ask for it.
Over the past two years I have used it twice. My phone at the time was an HTC Evo, about a $500 phone. To replace outside the 2yr contact you must pay full price. That is $1000 for 2 phones.
The insurance cost me a couple hundred plus the deductibles. That's under $500 to replace two phones, or a savings of about $500 or 50%.
Even if you replace 1 phone in two years, your saving a few hundred- more if its an iPhone which retails starting at $700.
It all depends on where and how you use your device. If you never replaced one before the you may be better off without. I also don't put cases or screen protectors on my phones. I wouldn't dare put one on my beautiful iPhone 5.
Just a thought, if you don't have insurance, you should be ready to drop $750 at any given time for a new iPhone. Otherwise you end up with a temporary flip.