5 Replies Latest reply: Jan 10, 2013 8:39 AM by ConcordRd
ConcordRd Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I'm trying to organize my external hard drives by moving data around.  If I copy too many GB's at a time the transfer, not the computer, freezes.  No matter how long I leave it there, it will just stall a X amount of data transferred & won't move.  Now I'm trying to transfer small amounts at a time, but when I'm done copying from one location to the new one, I send the old one to the trash, but now there's too much data in my trash can, that I try & empty it and it stops as well, or most of the time, never gets out of the preparing to delete phase.  And if I try to stop the process, it gets stuck on stopping, won't let me restart the computer & I have to manually turn it off & back on.  And some of the large folders in the trash don't give me the put back option so I can try & do smaller amounts at a time.  And I know cutting & pasting from one location to another might be easier, but I don't trust it with these problems.  And when I try to get the folder info, to make sure the old & new locations are the same size so I can delete the old one, it takes forever, if at all just to calculate the size of the folder.  It's also sometimes been getting stuck on the little rainbow colored wheel at times, where it moves, I can move the folders that are open, but can't do anything else.  I'm more used to PC's, so I don't think that if something moves it's freezing, but perhaps that IS freezing for a Mac? If anyone has any info on how to fix this I'd greatly appreciate it.  Thanks

 

-Kevin


Mac mini
  • 1. Re: Computer stalling between transfers & emptying trash
    den.thed Level 7 Level 7 (23,935 points)

    Hi Kevin

     

    Sounds like maybe your External Drives are formatted NTFS which is exclusively for use on a windows platform. So while Mac OS X can see and Read the External HD, it can not Write to it without special software.

     

    For starters see > Sharing drives | Macworld

     

    On that note: your best option might be to get another External HD or empty an existing one and Format it MS-DOS / FAT-32. Then copy all the data back to it from your other Windows External HD or Computer.

     

    Warning note: While both OS X and Windows can read and write MS-DOS / FAT-32, it comes with a price because there is a single file size limit of 4GB.

     

    Optionally if you plan on using an External HD exclusively with the Intel Mac for backup, cloning, etc. then GUID Partition Table / Mac OS X Extended format is best for that.

     

    Second warning note: Reformatting an External HD will Erase all the Data, so besure to copy everything important to another Hard Drive first.

     

    Dennis

  • 2. Re: Computer stalling between transfers & emptying trash
    ConcordRd Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hey Dennis,

         Appriciate the advice, but no, they have both only ever been used on my Mac Mini & I ran the Mac Install driver on both hard drives.  I'm aware of the different formats as I've tried connecting hard drives from my PC before.  And though they show up, it didn't let me move anything on or off.  My problem is, though I'm able to successfully copy the files/folders from one external drive to another, if I try to do too many GBs at once it gets stuck & doesn't finish, or sometimes even start the process. 

         I've actually copied everything I need to for now, my bigger problem is that I can't empty the trash.  I'm assuming it's a related problem though, that it's trying to delete too much at once.  And like I said, I've tried the 'Put Back' option, to delete smaller amounts at a time(just as I've had to with transfers), but it doesn't list that as an option on a couple of the biggest folders.  Any other ideas on what could be causing or how to fix the problem?

     

    Thanks again.

     

    -Kevin

  • 3. Re: Computer stalling between transfers & emptying trash
    den.thed Level 7 Level 7 (23,935 points)

    Hummm...

    ConcordRd wrote:

     

    Hey Dennis,

         Appriciate the advice, but no, they have both only ever been used on my Mac Mini & I ran the Mac Install driver on both hard drives.  I'm aware of the different formats as I've tried connecting hard drives from my PC before.  And though they show up, it didn't let me move anything on or off.  My problem is, though I'm able to successfully copy the files/folders from one external drive to another, if I try to do too many GBs at once it gets stuck & doesn't finish, or sometimes even start the process. 

      

     

    1. Sorry, what is "Mac Install drive" do you mean Disk Utility or something else?

     

    2. What exactly is the Partition Map Scheme (MS-DOS, Apple or GUID) and Format (FAT-32, or Mac OS Extended) of those drives?

     

    3. What if any messages are you getting, when you try to copy or empty trash?

     

    ConcordRd wrote:

     

    I've actually copied everything I need to for now, my bigger problem is that I can't empty the trash.  I'm assuming it's a related problem though, that it's trying to delete too much at once.  And like I said, I've tried the 'Put Back' option, to delete smaller amounts at a time(just as I've had to with transfers), but it doesn't list that as an option on a couple of the biggest folders.  Any other ideas on what could be causing or how to fix the problem?

     

    For Trash problems, have a look at the following:

     

    > You can't empty the Trash or move a file to the Trash

     

    > Solving Trash Problems

  • 4. Re: Computer stalling between transfers & emptying trash
    ConcordRd Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm gonna include some screen grabs for ya.  First off, this is The "Mac Install Driver".  When I first plug my external hard drives into the mac, it won't let me add anything to them.  I had to run this, I'm assuming driver, to get the to work with it. 

    Screen shot 2013-01-10 at 3.51.16 AM.png

    I have 2 Externals. The 1st is a 1 TB Seagate, Partition map Scheme: Master Boot Record, Format: Windows NT File system.  The 2nd is a 1.5 TB WD, Partition map scheme: GUID Partition Table, Format: Mac OS Extended.  The 1st(Seagate) is the newer one I'm adding files to, & I'm not sure why the format lists Windows.  Like I said, it's only ever been used on this Mac.  The 2nd(WD) is the older one I'm copying files from & thus the one i mainly need to delete stuff off of.

     

    As far as the trash, I'm not getting any messages. It's just getting ready to erase the files & never does.  I thought I took a screen shot of it, but can't find it right now.  I read both the documents & neither listed this problem.  I clicked & held the mouse on the trash can, then hit Command + Shift, & it did give me the option to secure empty trash.  I clicked on that & it did actually get started on emptying it. But it seems to have stalled after delelting about 30 something files of the over 10,600+ in there.  I'll leave it on for a bit, but if it's like it normally is, I could come back 10 hours later & it wouldn't have budged.  I'll let you know in a bit.

     

    Again, thanks for all the help sir.

  • 5. Re: Computer stalling between transfers & emptying trash
    ConcordRd Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I did end up getting an error message with the Secure Empty Trash....Screen shot 2013-01-10 at 5.47.26 AM.png

    I don't understand what data in a file that can not be read or written has to do with anything, I'm just trying to erase it.  And the 2 folders remaining in the trash do not give me the option to Put them back to explore it further.  I'm completely lost on this one.