8 Replies Latest reply: Jan 12, 2013 10:17 AM by ginther
ginther Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Hellos...

 

Have a MacPro 1,1 with an ATI 5770 running 10.7.5. Had been running two Dell2407WFPHC displays at 1920x1200. When i swapped out the main display with a Dell2713H the mac only recognizes the 1920x1200 sizes and not the 2560x1440 needed to run the display correctlt.

 

 

Thoughts?

 

 

 

 

thx


Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.5)
  • 1. Re: MacPro not recognizing displays needed 2560x1440,only shows 1920x1200
    Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (49,265 points)

    Displays wider than 1920 wide require a Dual-Link connection all the way through.

     

    Dual-Link means the data lines in all the connectors and cables are doubled, so that it can handle the faster data rates needed to get all those bits on the wider screens.

     

    Dual-Link uses all the pins in the center grid, so all those pins must be present. Single-Link sometimes (not always) has the center of the grid de-populated to lower cost.

     

    If you are converting from Mini DisplayPort, you will need a Dual-Link converter. If you ever expect to use all three ports on the display card, you should buy an ACTIVE Dual-Link converter.

  • 2. Re: MacPro not recognizing displays needed 2560x1440,only shows 1920x1200
    Malcolm J. Rayfield Level 5 Level 5 (4,805 points)

    If it's the Dell U2713H, it has DisplayPort and Mini DisplayPort inputs.  If you use one of these, you won't need any adapter.

  • 3. Re: MacPro not recognizing displays needed 2560x1440,only shows 1920x1200
    ginther Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thx you both very much .... Picked up a few of the apple DVI-Mini Display converters and will give them a try.Had been using the Rocketfish versions which i assume are just single.

     

    Shortly after posting I tried hooking up the monitor with the DVI cable to the DVI input on the 5770. The mac rebooted and the correct 2560x1440 resolution was the default, but the lower half of the screen was full of static and distortion....

     

    Again thx for the info, very helpfull!

  • 4. Re: MacPro not recognizing displays needed 2560x1440,only shows 1920x1200
    ginther Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I picked up a "Thunderbolt" cable from the local apple store ... they guy helping me had no idea what a Dual-link DVi to mini Dvi cable was – as neither did i. Monitor does not recognize a computer connected using that cable. so... this is what i looked up in google search:

     

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Apple%26%23174%3B+-+Apple+Mini+Display+Port+to+Dual+ Link+DVI+Adapter/9208494.p?id=1218059403844&skuId=9208494&st=mini%20display%20po rt%20cable&cp=1&lp=7

     

     

    This is the correct connector yes?

     

     

    They have one but have to order sadly as not a stocking item. I assume i need to order 2 to run dual high resolution monitors then?

     

     

    Thx again...

  • 5. Re: MacPro not recognizing displays needed 2560x1440,only shows 1920x1200
    Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (49,265 points)

    Almost all of these adapters are not reversible -- they convert in only one direction.

     

    When Apple describes these connectors, they rigorously name the computer-end first (where the signals are generated) then the display-end (where the signals are used). Many other manufacturers are completely sloppy about any similar convention.

     

    I do not think you should need the expensive Apple Mini DisplayPort --> Dual-Link DVI adapter you cited. I thought you only had one DVI display wider than 1920, and it could plug directly into the Dual-Link DVI port on the graphics card.

     

    But you are flinging terminology about and re-plugging displays willy-nilly, and I can no longer follow what you-are-plugging-into-what from your various descriptions above.

  • 6. Re: MacPro not recognizing displays needed 2560x1440,only shows 1920x1200
    ginther Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Ahh did not know that .... thx you. Had a tricky time trying to find a Dual Link converter (lack of my knowledge being the prime factor) Dells site is just bad for finding anything and i hoped the mac store would have know or had one in stock, but again the guy just pointed o the wall and said "What we have for connections is here."

    kk-thx.

     

    The "Thunderbolt" cable is a mini-DVI just branded something i assume? That should have worked from what has been said above.

     

    I tried a direct connection from the DVI on the Monitor to the DVI on the card... The lower half of the scren is fuzzy and distorted/pixelated as if there is interferance. I get that randomly on the normal Razorfish DVI to mini converters now and then, just a quick turn on / turn off of the monitor power fixes.

     

    So wanting to try the Dual converter to see if it is my graphics card that just cant support it or is the lovely new monitor bad...

     

    thx again, vm appreciated.

  • 7. Re: MacPro not recognizing displays needed 2560x1440,only shows 1920x1200
    Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (49,265 points)

    The "Thunderbolt" cable is a mini-DVI just branded something i assume? That should have worked from what has been said above.

    A ThunderBolt cable is a specialized cable that is ONLY good for connecting a bona fide ThunderBolt port and ThunderBolt devices. You should never have been sold such a cable. It is the wrong cable and will not work for you. The idea that it happens to plug into the ports merely confuses the issue.

     

    Your graphics card has one Dual-Link DVI port and two Mini DisplayPorts.

     

    To connect a display that has a mini DisplayPort, use a direct-connect Mini DisplayPort to Mini DisplayPort cable -- all wires, no adapters.

     

    To connect displays that have only a full-size DisplayPort instead of Mini DisplayPort, use a cable that has a Mini DisplayPort at the computer-end and a DisplayPort at the display-end. This is a straight-through cable that just uses different connectors -- only wires are in it, no adapter.

     

    To connect a wider-than-1920-wide display that have ONLY DVI, use a Dual-Link DVI cable (all pins in the grid must be present, or it is not Dual-Link).

     

    Adapters/converters are WAY more expensive than seems reasonable, and are potential points of failure. Avoid them all, if possible.

  • 8. Re: MacPro not recognizing displays needed 2560x1440,only shows 1920x1200
    ginther Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Again thx great reply, very helpful. Having a tough time finding a mini to mini display port but the monitor has a display port connection so a mini to display port should work I hope.

     

     

    Thx again