Currently Being ModeratedJan 13, 2013 2:09 AM (in response to daviddouglasc)
If you want to hear the DTX internal sounds through Logic(?), you will need to connect the audio outs from the DTX to the Mac, create an audio track and record-enable (or Input Monitor) the audio track.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 13, 2013 1:45 PM (in response to CCTM)
Hi thanks for the reply. Taking that route how would I keep the midi information synced to those audio sounds to be able to move around and edit after?
There must be a way to have the module sync the trigger information in logic to play the data back through the module. I have to think the USB connection on the module is capable of this somehow.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 13, 2013 1:53 PM (in response to daviddouglasc)
There must be a way to have the module sync the trigger information in logic to play the data back through the module.
Yep. You could use an "External MIDI" track to send the note data straight back to the DTX. Create an External MIDI track open the Library and select the correct MIDI channel for your DTX.
You will probably still need the audio channel to hear the DTX via Logic.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 13, 2013 2:25 PM (in response to CCTM)
You make it sound so easy! haha I'm lost. Heres what I've been trying to do from the module... page 53
When I make an external midi track in logic in the library I have 3 dtx options show up.
Yamaha DTX700 Port 1, 2, and 3. Each with numbered 1 to 16 different icons to choose from in their subfolders that look like this... 1 (Prg 51=74), 2 (Prg 90), 3 (Prg 33=52), etc.
Would I still need to run the audio channel from the module or is there a way to have it send the midi sounds through the USB do you think and output them onto an audio channel somehow?
I appreciate your time!
Currently Being ModeratedJan 14, 2013 12:18 AM (in response to daviddouglasc)
Ok, let's do this in smaller steps:
A) Get MIDI from the DTX into Logic
When all is working correctly, striking a pad should send MIDI note events into Logic. You should see activity in the MIDI area of the Transport. The info should tell you the MIDI Channel (1-16), the note number (D1 etc) and the velocity (1-127) (how hard you hit it). You may need to know the MIDI channel for step B. (assuming that your DTX is set to receive on the same channel)
You could record some MIDI notes into Logic and open up the Event list to double check the MIDI channel.
B) Get MIDI from Logic back to the DTX. For this part, plug some headphones into the DTX so you can hear what it is doing directly.
Make an External Instrument track and open the Library. Your previous post stated that you had 3 different MIDI port Instruments that you could use (each with 16 Channels). I was only expecting to see 1 port, but no worries.
Choose the first one, using the SAME MIDI channel as noted in Step A. Record some hits, then play it back. You should hear the DTX respond in teh headphones. If not, try the next Port (same MIDI channel).
If this does not work, you will need to dig out the Reference manual to check the MIDI input settings on the DTX
C) Get the audio from the DTX back into Logic, and enable monitoring
Connect the audio outs from the DTX to you audio interface, and make an audio track set to the correct audio inputs. Enable Input Monitoring (the I on the audio channel).
When you play the pre-recorded MID data (Step A or B), you should hear the DTX via Logic
Currently Being ModeratedJan 14, 2013 6:52 AM (in response to daviddouglasc)
I have the DTX520K. I use it to trigger Software Instrument drum kits inside Logic Pro such as in the EXS24, Ultrabeat etc. But most importantly I use XLN Audio - Addictive Drums. Your performance is recorded into Logic as Midi Data that can be edited in various ways. Midi is very versatile. I will add that you may need to make some additional Midi setup(s) in the Audio/Midi settings found in your Utilities Folder. The icon looks like a keyboard. What you are basically wanting to do is use the DTX700 as both a Midi Controller and a Midi Module.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 14, 2013 2:45 PM (in response to CCTM)
You my friend are an Angel. You've literally saved my eyesight. That worked perfectly! Unfortunately it showed the weakness/cheapness in my Audio to Digital converters but nothing that can't be remedied in the future.
thanks so much for that you've saved hours of endless confusion and dead end maze hunting for the right combination of buttons, inputs, cords, etc, etc. As an audio guy entering a world of midi you've been a huge step!
Cheers thanks for taking the time,
Currently Being ModeratedJan 14, 2013 2:50 PM (in response to mdee)
I fully intended to do that as well and got BFD 2. My duo core imac is getting a bit out of date so pops and clicks and logic crashes start showing up the more I stack plug ins onto the tracks. BFD2 is a bit heavy so I may record in the midi data first the way CCTM layed out then switch the midi to BFD at the end when its time to press it out. That way its not running it the whole time and causing crashes.
Thanks for your tip too!