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idkJosh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I recieved the iMac with the minimium RAM, because lets be honest, I would have to be silly to pay their prices.

 

Tonight I went ahead and opened it up to install the shiny new RAM I got. (Corsair 8GBx2 DDR3 1600MHz) The install was simple, and I must say I loved the craftmenship of the rear door and the whole assembly as a whole. I can tell where my money went.

 

Onward with the story, I fired up the machine, and low and behold it is reporting ALL of my memory as 1333 HMz.

 

It works, and it uses all 24GB of avaliable memory, but its not really the correct speed.

 

Now, I dont know a TON about memory, but I can match number and MHz like any other idiot out there.

 

Is it because I am running some of the OEM RAM as well as aftermarket?

 

If anyone needs more info from me to help out, just lemme know.

 

Thanks everyone!


iMac (27-inch, Late 2012), OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
  • 1. Re: 2012 iMac 27" Upgraded RAM, incorrect speed.
    ComputerFixer Level 3 Level 3 (720 points)

    Since apple OEM ram is 1333MHz, the ram bus will run at THAT speed.   The system has a certain speed it can run at, and that is where it stays, especially when the slower ram is in the primary ram slot.  Whether or not taking the OEM ram out will make it run at 1600, I cannot say as I have not actually tried doing so,   but I DO know that the slower memory will slow down the ram bus to the maximum speed of the lowest chip.

  • 2. Re: 2012 iMac 27" Upgraded RAM, incorrect speed.
    idkJosh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for the reply. All of that seems completely logical to me.

     

    The only question I have is, on the spec sheet for the 2012 iMac it specifically states 1600HMz

     

    8GB (two 4GB) of 1600MHz DDR3 memory; four user-accessible SO-DIMM slots

    Is RAM somewhat like HD's? Where you dont necessarily get all of the space (or speed in the case of RAM) as stated, but you know its all there.

  • 3. Re: 2012 iMac 27" Upgraded RAM, incorrect speed.
    ComputerFixer Level 3 Level 3 (720 points)

    The way ram works (if I understand your question)  is the ram is constantly there, just incase. Instead of constantly reading and passing data through the processor (which is a very slow task,) some operations are stored on ram chips so that they can more easily be cached and replicated later.  It is basically a computer's ability to multi-task several operations.  Now... as far as the availability of the ram goes,   Part of the ram is "wired ram" which is reserved for system operations... Anything that runs the OS and the machine itself falls in this category.   Then there is "active" ram, which is ram that is currently in use by various programs.  Next, there is "inactive ram" which is ram that has been used, but not yet garbage collected,  and then finally, there is "free" ram, which is ram that is currently empty and can be allocated easily.   As for the manufacturer anomalies,  That is a fairly small window if you use good ram, so it is not usually anything to worry about.  

     

    As for the original problem, I am not sure why you would see the slower ram speed of 1333Mhz.  I would say, if it isn't too annoying, and it isn't getting worse, don't worry about it.  Even at 1333Mhz, you should still see a noticable improvement in speed between 8GB and 16GB.

  • 4. Re: 2012 iMac 27" Upgraded RAM, incorrect speed.
    idkJosh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    WoW! Such an in-depth reply! Thank you.

     

    I will probably remove the OEM RAM tomorrow and see if it changes, if not, I guess I can live with it, but its really does bug the **** out of me.

     

    Do you think I would have any luck contacting cosiar or apple directly?

  • 5. Re: 2012 iMac 27" Upgraded RAM, incorrect speed.
    ComputerFixer Level 3 Level 3 (720 points)

    an Apple Genius representative would likely be able to pinpoint the source of the slow-down, yes.  If you bought AppleCare, that would also probably help things along as well.

  • 6. Re: 2012 iMac 27" Upgraded RAM, incorrect speed.
    babowa Level 7 Level 7 (23,295 points)

    What does the system info on the Mac say about your RAM?

     

    Apple > About this Mac:

     

    Screen Shot 2013-01-15 at 7.26.09 PM.png

     

     

    And, under more infor > Memory:

     

    Screen Shot 2013-01-15 at 7.26.28 PM.png

    Post the results here; you may have to call Apple - you are under warranty.

  • 7. Re: 2012 iMac 27" Upgraded RAM, incorrect speed.
    idkJosh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Screen Shot 2013-01-15 at 8.00.30 PM.png

     

    Screen Shot 2013-01-15 at 8.00.18 PM.png

     

    Here is the information!

     

    Tomorrow I may remove the OEM and see what is says about the speed of the cosair by itself.

  • 8. Re: 2012 iMac 27" Upgraded RAM, incorrect speed.
    babowa Level 7 Level 7 (23,295 points)

    I find it interesting (or, rather, disturbing) that the second screenshot says "each of which accepts a 1333 MHz, etc"

     

    This is going to sound totally crazy, but I'd check on which iMac I received - according to the specs, the late 2012 accepts 1600 MHz.

     

    Oh, and one more place to check:

     

    Apple > about this mac > more info > System Report > highlight Memory in left column: same result showing 1333 MHz?

  • 9. Re: 2012 iMac 27" Upgraded RAM, incorrect speed.
    ComputerFixer Level 3 Level 3 (720 points)

    babowa wrote:

     

    I find it interesting (or, rather, disturbing) that the second screenshot says "each of which accepts a 1333 MHz, etc"

     

    This is going to sound totally crazy, but I'd check on which iMac I received - according to the specs, the late 2012 accepts 1600 MHz.

     

     

    What does it say in "overview"   wouldnt that show what model it really was?

  • 10. Re: 2012 iMac 27" Upgraded RAM, incorrect speed.
    babowa Level 7 Level 7 (23,295 points)

    Yes, it just seems odd: the OP's screemshot shows the 2.9 GHz i5 and that  is a late 2012, but then why does it not show the correct RAM speed? It shoes the speed of the previous models (2010/2011).

  • 11. Re: 2012 iMac 27" Upgraded RAM, incorrect speed.
    idkJosh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Since so many people are responding I went ahead and pulled out the Cosair RAM. It now just has the OEM 8GB. Here are the screen shots.

    Screen Shot 2013-01-15 at 9.35.51 PM.png

    Screen Shot 2013-01-15 at 9.35.42 PM.png

     

    I'm going to pop out the OEM stuff and put the cosair in, see what it comes up as as far as speed.

     

    Maybe they just dont play nicely together?

  • 12. Re: 2012 iMac 27" Upgraded RAM, incorrect speed.
    idkJosh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Aaaaaand here is where it gets fun guys!!! Here are the screenshots with JUST the Cosair RAM installed.

     

    Screen Shot 2013-01-15 at 9.44.29 PM.pngScreen Shot 2013-01-15 at 9.44.02 PM.jpg

     

    So, when installed seperatly, they both are recognized as the correct speed. But when installed together, they slow down to 1333MHz.

     

    Seems like we are all going to be lost at this point haha.

  • 13. Re: 2012 iMac 27" Upgraded RAM, incorrect speed.
    idkJosh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Screen Shot 2013-01-15 at 9.57.42 PM.png

     

    Here is a screenshot of the memory system report. All reporting 1333MHz.

     

    I did check when in brand was individually installed, and they both showed 1600MHz. (see screens below)

  • 14. Re: 2012 iMac 27" Upgraded RAM, incorrect speed.
    babowa Level 7 Level 7 (23,295 points)

    I'm not at my iMac right now, so can't check, but did you install the memory so it would match horizontally? It needs to be matched that way - your Corsair screen shot shows the RAM matched vertically. You need to change that.

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