9 Replies Latest reply: Jan 18, 2013 10:40 AM by Warren Heaton
dapacarter Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I have a mid 2010 27inch i3 iMac with 8gb of RAM in it. And I have to be honest I find motion very slow if I go over a certain amount of requests ie moving into 3d animation

 

Motion at this point slows to a point where I might as well shoot myself

 

can someone suggest what machine I need to get the most out of Motion 5?

 

I have attempted to update my iMac to 32 gb based on advice from OWC but the iMac would not take the RAM

 

Crucial state the mid 2010 cannot accept 32 gb and that I can only go up to 16gb

 

does anyone have any advice on this?

 

the complexities are driving me through the roof

 

please help


Motion 4, iOS 6
  • 1. Re: can someone advise me how to get Motion 5 to work
    BenB Level 5 Level 5 (7,825 points)

    The secret is to look at the Render menu at the top right of the canvas.  Turn off everything you don't really need for the task at the moment.  If you're using lights, and are now working on cameras, turn off the lights.  In the Resolution section of that menu, turn off Dynamic, set it to Half or Qurter.  Set the Quality to Normal or even Draft.

     

    When you're done, you can turn these all back on in the Render menu there, or override that in the Export dialogo box, where you can set them.

  • 2. Re: can someone advise me how to get Motion 5 to work
    Warren Heaton Level 3 Level 3 (540 points)

    One technical spec that you didn't list is your display RAM.  I think the i3 iMac came with a 256Mb or 512Mb display card.

     

    So, while more RAM might help, more display RAM is what you're after.  The i5 and i7 2010 models had a 1GB option (if I remember correctly, it was a build to order option and not an upgrade).

     

    If you anticipate a lot of Motion work, you might price a new iMac with i5 (or i7 upgrade) with the "Configurable to NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX with 2GB of GDDR5 memory."  It adds $150 to the price, but you should appreciate the boost in GPU while working in Motion.

     

    Also, a key to working faster is everything that BenB suggested.  So, you can work quickly and then wait when you are ready to export.

     

    And, yes, you can cram 32GB of RAM into the 2010 models.  Be sure to buy it from OWC so you have technical support.  Keep your original RAM, though.  If you still have AppleCare and call Apple, there is a chance they will ask you to put the original RAM back in for troubleshooting (I've dealt with this back in the days the mirror door G4 was still around and had to go back to the orignal ram spec rather than what I had upgraded to).  And again, more RAM isn't really going to get you the performace boost you're looking for.

     

     

     

     

    -Warren

  • 3. Re: can someone advise me how to get Motion 5 to work
    BenB Level 5 Level 5 (7,825 points)

    Apple Care won't give a care if you upgraded the RAM.  It is a user servicable option which will not void your warranty.

  • 4. Re: can someone advise me how to get Motion 5 to work
    dapacarter Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    can you guys advise where to go for pratical advice and examples of how to do things within motion itself

    I use macprovideo foir everything I was just thinking if there was a youtube channel that gave recipies (for one of a better word) of how to complete certain tasks?

  • 5. Re: can someone advise me how to get Motion 5 to work
    Warren Heaton Level 3 Level 3 (540 points)

    Right, but they might ask you to remove 3rd party RAM in the trouble shooting process.

     

     

     

    -Warren

  • 6. Re: can someone advise me how to get Motion 5 to work
    Warren Heaton Level 3 Level 3 (540 points)

    Hmmm... not sure.  But if you come across something you really like, be sure to post it back here.

     

     

    -Warren

  • 7. Re: can someone advise me how to get Motion 5 to work
    dapacarter Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    http://http://play.macprovideo.com/motion5401-creating-3d-text/intro

     

    plus I have tried updating my iMac with more RAM

     

    1. I bought RAM from OWC and had to pay tax to get the RAM into Spain, OWN seems to be twice the price of anyone else

     

    anyway my iMAc mid 2010 i3 27inch would not take the upgrade

     

    2. I tried Crucial 32gb RAM 8gb each slot and again the iMac refused to take the RAM so I sent both lots of RAM back to the sender

     

    I bought the Crucial RAM through Amazon

     

    any ideas what I am doing wrong, is there a type of RAM I need?

  • 8. Re: can someone advise me how to get Motion 5 to work
    Warren Heaton Level 3 Level 3 (540 points)

    Quick questions:

     

    Are you just trying to get Motion to work in the first place?  Or,

     

    Are you trying to get Motion to work faster?

     

    If you're trying to get Motion to work faster, more RAM isn't going to do what you're hoping for.  Either Motion has enough RAM to render the scene or not.

     

    When it comes to speed performance in Motion, it's GPU that matters followed by CPU.

     

    Your iMac probably has the following graphics card:

    ATI Radeon HD 5670 graphics processor with 512MB of GDDR3 memory

     

    In and of itself, that's a good graphics card; however, if you feel that Motion should be faster, then you need the "512Mb" to be "1GB" or "2GB" instead.  You're probably already aware that this isn't something that you can upgrade with an iMac.

     

    It's unfortunate that the two 16GB sticks that your ordered are not working.  More RAM rarely hurts anything.  But even if you install two 8GB sticks for 16GB total, you're not going to see much of an imrpovement in speed.

     

     

     

    -Warren

  • 9. Re: can someone advise me how to get Motion 5 to work
    Warren Heaton Level 3 Level 3 (540 points)

    For what it's worth, AppleCare may ask you to remove stock RAM as well.  It all depends on where the troubleshooting process leads.