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Text messages don't actually get deleted

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  • molotovito Level 1 Level 1 (60 points)
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    Sep 28, 2010 8:35 AM (in response to gixxermike)
    Don't let any iPhone forensics people get close to that phone!
    macbook 13" powerbook 17" iPhone 4, iOS 4
  • Igor_G5 Level 2 Level 2 (300 points)
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    Sep 28, 2010 1:51 PM (in response to DCGOO)
    DCGOO wrote:
    All that means is the constraint of a spotlight search has been limited to undeleted messages.


    What that means is that the information is removed from the directory. It has nothing to do with spotlight the iPhone has no idea that it exists. It's just like on a computer. Even though it's really there the computer thinks it isn't. The iPhone thinks it isn't there. It has nothing to do with how Spotlight works.

    It would take some serious retrieval tools to retrieve it.
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  • kbiz Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 27, 2010 3:56 PM (in response to Igor_G5)
    I'm running 4.1 and I can still pull up old deleted text messages in spotlight search by typing in the area code of the phone number... it's not every one of them but it's a lot of them... I can't always reproduce it but there's a bunch of deleted texts that come up with previews of the text I can read... I really don't like this issue.
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  • peter wiztofski Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Jan 5, 2011 7:00 PM (in response to gixxermike)
    They guy who posted this is correct. I dont know about emails but I know the spotlight search and the text message search can pull up previously deleted messages, but I do believe there are some stipulations. I think the deleted text messages that appear must be the last text in a deleted conversation, as in clearing a conversation. I think manually deleting each text message fixes this problem as far as i can tell. And yes it is possible to delete some messages in a convo without deleting the whole thing.
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  • Lily from townsville Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 16, 2011 11:53 PM (in response to Allan Sampson)

    Hi there - can you help me.

    I want to RECOVER text messages ACCIDENTLY deleted from my 32G i phone 4. The tried the spotlight thing and nothing showed up. When I did the deleting, I did the DELETE AND SWIPE METHOD. Please help if possible.

  • Lxgina Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 13, 2012 3:30 AM (in response to gixxermike)

    Thanks for the heads up.

    It angers me that 2 years later, this is still an issue.

    Windows deletes things so "you" can't search them out unless you're super techy.

    Come on Apple - I can accept a false sense of security, just find a way to delete TEXTS from the phones "spotlight search" . It should be a flood light search or a interrogation room search.

     

    i will send apple my thoughts. Yet another missed opportunity to fix stuff we beg them to fix for years.

  • frootloup Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 28, 2012 8:27 PM (in response to gixxermike)

    You are correct. My bf unknowingly was showing me how to look up contacts through the spotlight search, little did he or I know at the time that the first sentance of text messages would show up.

    Oh how I did not like what I saw.

    I have also played with it on mine, it is hit or miss as you have to type in a keyword that is actually in the text. You cannot read the whole text, nor really tell who the actual sender or reciever is, only the other name exchanging the texts.

    Seems to me if they are still in there enough to show up in spotlight search there has to be a way to recover them. But you cannot open them once they have been deleted.

    There can be enough evidence just in that to get you in trouble.

    Although the easiest solution is just to do the right dang thing in the first place and not be exchanging texts that you wouldn't want someone else to see. Grrrrrr!!!

    But changing your settings will stop the spolight search from searching text messages, or email whatever you don't want to show up.

    But all someone has to do if they can get to your phone is recheck the settings and bam!!

    The truth will always come out in time anyway!

  • patnas Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 18, 2014 9:06 PM (in response to gixxermike)

    HOW TO COMPLETELY DELETE A TEXT MESSAGE

     

     

    1 – Always sync your phone with iTunes.

     

     

    Sync regularly and sync often. Syncing your phone with iTunes is what actually erases the messages that you’ve marked for deletion. Once the sync is complete, the messages will be deleted for good.

     

     

    2 – Remove Spotlight Message Search

     

     

    Spotlight cant look for items when you specify it to stay away from. You can control what apps Spotlight can or can not look into. To change your settings go to:

     

     

    Settings

    General

    Spotlight Search

    Scroll to the bottom and uncheck “Messages”

    While you are at it, you can uncheck any other application that you don’t want Spotlight to sniff into.

     

     

    3 – Erase All Content & Settings

     

     

    This is the most radical step that you can take. It goes without saying that this option, like the name suggests, will erase everything from your phone. Just make sure all your important information is already backed up. This will delete your music, email, apps, pictures and everything else. To do a complete content erase follow these steps:

     

     

    Settings

    General

    Reset

    Tap “Erase all content and settings”

     

     

     

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  • lmadsen11 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 12, 2013 5:13 PM (in response to patnas)

    This still doesn't work for me.  After I sync they are all still there.  Any suggestions?

  • Bilgo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 15, 2013 11:57 AM (in response to gixxermike)

    I have just had my Iphone searched by GF using device/software bought online, it revealed EVERY call and text EVER made by me on phone, including date, time sender and FULL content of all messages, it feels like i have had my mind read. HOW do i delete all from memory to stop this. Spotlight search finds nothing, but 3rd party devices can find EVERYTHING *** Apple ;-(

  • frootloup Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 16, 2013 4:38 AM (in response to Bilgo)

    What software did she use?

  • Bilgo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 16, 2013 7:20 AM (in response to frootloup)

    No idea what device/software was used but googled "phone stick" and it returned devices to do it, one site was called Eyetek i think.

    What i need to do is clear all that history from phone, i know i can do back up and then reset phone, then sync it again, but that will put all messages back that i am trying to get rid of????

  • frootloup Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 17, 2013 5:03 AM (in response to Bilgo)

    Idk either. It is very confusing. Just google and google till you find something that works.

    Apple isn't a whole lot of help with alot of issues.

    Unless maybe you make an appt at your local apple store?

    The guys in there really seem to know what they are doing, and they can kind of do it for you. Beats trying to get help over the phone or email.

     

    Those spy sticks or spy programs are very expensive. She really paid that kind of money to get your texts?

    I saw enough on the spotlight search to really really want to see my bf's deleted text messages.

    He keeps talking about getting married, but if he's already cheating on me.... see my issue?

    I'm not going to spend a dime or another minute worrying about it.

    I don't want to resort to this type of snooping either.

    I shouldn't need to feel this way at all.

    Why can't just be honest?

  • Bilgo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 17, 2013 8:49 AM (in response to frootloup)

    Hi Frootloup, back in UK soon so shall make appt with store when back, hope thay can clear all and advise on future use. Yes, i see your issue and it is upsetting, to read my text exchange looks REAL bad but nothing happened, thats all it was, immature texting ;-(  I could do same i suppose and snoop, but"Dont look for what you dont want to find"?? Every bit of history usage was revealed on my phone ;-( feels like i have had my mind read, horrible feeling, but then i was at fault for being immature. Hope you get all sorted :-)) Hve done lots of googling but no luck so far, i wonder how many iphone owners are aware of this failure by Apple, damned good mind to change phone out of spite!!!

  • frootloup Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 18, 2013 4:59 AM (in response to Bilgo)

    Bilgo, I would love to learn it was just immature texting and nothing happend. Things I saw didn't look good. But I can't look further.

    Hey we are all immature and do stupid things. I certainly wouldn't want my mind read.

    The invasion of privacy has to feel awful.

    We ALL deserve our privacy.

    And I agree, don't look for what you don't want to find!!

    Maybe apple will get this straight since there are so many complaints.

    Till then people should really think twice about what they write in a text message if they have any reason to worry someone might eventually see them.

    Good luck to you!!

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