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gaginker Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

Having watched several G/Band tutorials on loops, I still can't quite understand exactly how to create a loop in such a way that the pause between them is accurate. Each time I make a loop there's a one- or two second gap between them. How are these gaps closed or shortened please?


iPad 2, iOS 5.0.1
  • 1. Re: Editing loops
    Christoph Drösser Level 6 Level 6 (11,275 points)

    Can you explain in more detail what is happening? When you loop a region, there are no gaps.

  • 2. Re: Editing loops
    gaginker Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Thanks for your time, Christoph. What I meant was, the part I attempt to loop often has a bit of silence at the end, and I would like to delete this, before grabbing the corner and looping it, so that it's a smooth transition.

     

    Not sure what a 'region' is......

     

    Nick

  • 3. Re: Editing loops
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,805 points)

    Are you asking about loops in GarageBand on an iPad, as your profile signature suggests, or in GarageBand on your Mac, as your tags suggest?

    And are you asking about loops you are dragging from your Loop Browser into the timeline, or about loops you are creating yourself and adding to the loopbrowser?

  • 4. Re: Editing loops
    gaginker Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Forgive me, Leonie - the problem I'm having concerns a loop I have created in'real instruments'  on a MacbookPro.

     

    My less-than-expert operation leaves a short pause at the end of the piece I' m  trying to loop, and when I drag the corner, and listen to the result, there's a gap between the loops. I really need to know how to edit each end of the loop before looping it.

     

    Does this make any sense?

     

     

    Best,

     

    Nick

  • 5. Re: Editing loops
    Christoph Drösser Level 6 Level 6 (11,275 points)

    Regions are the colourful elements in the timeline - in your case the passage you want to loop.

     

    If there's silence at the end of the region, you can get rid of it by dragging the right margin of the region in. You do that by hovering the cursor arrow over the top right corner of the region until it turns into a cursor symbol (not the circular arrow, that's for looping), then you can grab the right margin and move it to the left until you have found the point where you want the loop to end. Then use the circular arrow mode to loop the loop.

  • 6. Re: Editing loops
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,805 points)

    Nick,

    just a short answer, before Christoph can get back to this discussion.

     

    You can trim the ends of your custom loop by cutting it. I'd look at the loop in the track editor, so you can see the wave form and can tell where the silence starts. Adjust the slider, so you see the waveform enlarged and can trim exactly. To cut the loop, use the keyboard shortcut "⌘T" after postioning the cross hair.

     

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    Only, I do not see, how cutting off the silence will help. You will want to cut exactly at the boundaries between measures, for your loops to stay in sync with the beat of the music.

     

    It might be preferrable to drag the waveform to extend the sound into the silent region with the flextime editing tools. If you enable "Follow Tempo and Pitch", you can drag the blobs in the waveform to make the sustain longer.

  • 7. Re: Editing loops
    gaginker Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Thanks. Yet again, Leonie. Between your recommendations and those of Christoph, reckon I am back in business.

     

    We are fortunate to have such helpful  allies, we idiots.

     

    Best, N

  • 8. Re: Editing loops
    gaginker Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Christoph - once again am in your debt. So glad you are able to spare the time to assist us know-nothing's on this excellent site.

     

    Thanks, mon ami

     

    N

  • 9. Re: Editing loops
    Christoph Drösser Level 6 Level 6 (11,275 points)

    No debts here - glad you got it working!

  • 10. Re: Editing loops
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,805 points)

    You are welcome, Nick.

     

    Glad to help.

  • 11. Re: Editing loops
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,805 points)

    We are fortunate to have such helpful  allies, we idiots.

    Pretty soon you will be a helpful ally too, just wait and see!

    BTW, thanks for the golden star - just in case you do not know - you can award points to more than one post and give Christoph green solved mark; this will help other posters to easily find the solution -you can award one "solved" mark and two "helpful" stars.

     

    Cheers

    Léonie

  • 12. Re: Editing loops
    gaginker Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Much as I hate to bother Christoph and Leonie again, am still unable to effect a smooth transition between loops. This time I actually counted the vertical lines in Track Editor between the previous music bars and made that number the gap between the loops - or thought I did. What happened was that even after cutting (Command-T, thanks Leonie), it didn't disappear, but remained there, with a "no effects" notation.

     

    It might help if I knew how to move regions. Is there a keyboard shortcut for that?

     

    Sorry to be a pain.

     

     

    Nick

  • 13. Re: Editing loops
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,805 points)

    Really, no need to apologize, Nick! We like to answer questions. This way we discover new aspects of GarageBand that we missed before.

     

    What happened was that even after cutting (Command-T, thanks Leonie), it didn't disappear, but remained there, with a "no effects" notation.

    I should have explained in more detail:

    After cutting a region, you can select the cut-off part of it and press the "delete ⌫" key; then you can reposition the loop in the timeline by dragging it with the mouse where you want it (select the region, hold down the mouse button and drag).

     

    But have you tried Christoph's suggestion (Re: Editing loops), to shorten the loop by dragging the border? That might be easier than cutting.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • 14. Re: Editing loops
    gaginker Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Will put your advice into practice and report back, Leonie. Did try to drag a region on several occasions, as Christoph suggested, but my cursor made a grey rectangle in the region  when I attempted to drag and drop.

     

    We soldier on.......thanks for the umpteenth  time.

     

    Nick

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