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  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    Oct 20, 2012 7:42 PM (in response to Darth Gray)

    If YOU would drop the ATTITUDE and bother to LOOK at the POSTS on the last few PAGES. . .

     

    you'd see it IS fixed.

  • Darth Gray Calculating status...
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    Oct 20, 2012 8:08 PM (in response to FatMac\>MacPro)

    Thanks, I did. After having read more than 30 pages, it became very frustrating. At that point all the postings and solutions offered seemed to offer work arounds - some I'd tried with not avail. Kept on reading and came the URL for a potential fix. It's downloading ... let's hope it fixes the problem.

  • Darth Gray Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 20, 2012 8:13 PM (in response to Pondini)

    Pondi ... it's not ATTITUDE, it's more of a frustration. Working on a slow system, searching for a fix ... becomes overwhelming. This is an issue that has been ongoing for quite some time. And it took Apple too long (my perspective) to provide a solution and fix. If Apple is to continue to provide Superior Products and Services, the Customer Value needs to become a differentiator. No hard feelings.

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    Oct 20, 2012 8:22 PM (in response to Darth Gray)

    Yes, I understand it's frustrating (try beta testing!).

     

    But no app, no OS, no hardware is perfect.  That includes Apple.

     

    But Apple consistently gets the highest marks in consumer surveys . . . by very high margins.  

     

     

    By the way, the fix was released October 5 -- and was immediately posted in several threads here.  The App Store (or Software Update) should have shown it to you shortly thereafter.   

  • Darth Gray Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 20, 2012 8:35 PM (in response to Pondini)

    Cool, thanks. Guess next time I will start at the end of the post and work my way backwards. I started with Apple back w/ the Apple II, and through the years have worked with other operating systems. Still give Apple products higher marks.

  • Henrik Simonsen Calculating status...
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    Oct 28, 2012 2:07 PM (in response to Darth Gray)

    I've installed the 10.7.5 build 11G63 and my TM is still very slow, has almost stopped. It starts being being quite fast and then, when it is almost finished, slows down. Before I installed 11G63 it was even worse, it stopped near the end and did not start again.

     

    Can it be true that I have to start from the beginning after having stopped the back up?

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    Oct 28, 2012 2:16 PM (in response to Henrik Simonsen)

    Henrik Simonsen wrote:

     

    I've installed the 10.7.5 build 11G63 and my TM is still very slow, has almost stopped. It starts being being quite fast and then, when it is almost finished, slows down. Before I installed 11G63 it was even worse, it stopped near the end and did not start again.

    Depending on why it stopped, it may not restart automatically.  If it failed, there should have been a message.  If you missed or forgot it, see #C2 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting.  

     

    Without that message (and perhaps the detailed messages from the Time Machine Buddy widget mentioned in #C2), we can't tell.  It may be a problem with a file, some sort of interference, a failing drive, directory problem, etc.

     

    If #C2 doesn't lead you to a solution, post back with all the messages, plus details of your setup -- what kind of Mac you have, how much data is on it, what you're backing-up to (external HD, Time Capsule, NAS, etc.), how large it is, whether there's other data on it and, if so, how much.

     

    For general slowness, you might also want to review #D2 in the above link.

     

    Can it be true that I have to start from the beginning after having stopped the back up?

    Usually not.  Time Machine leaves the partial backup on the destination (but doesn't show it in the browser), so it can "recover" it on the next backup.  The next one does take a while, and seems to be running very slowly while it does that.  Sometimes, however, you do have to erase the destination and start over.

  • Henrik Simonsen Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 28, 2012 2:33 PM (in response to Pondini)

    thank's for the quick answer and link!

    I'll look into it later but I can see now that my question regarding starting from the beginning of a session after I have stopped TM is no longer a problem. It starts where it was stopped. But still, very slow.

  • RocketRiter Calculating status...
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    Nov 10, 2012 10:08 PM (in response to Larry Nolan)

    While you guys are celebrating, I'm stuck here with OS 10.8.2 and a Time Machine update that's currently estimated at over 2,000 days. And yes, the problem seems to be Spotlight, because things started to move faster when I disabled it. Downloading the update linked to in this forum was no help, because it won't install onto 10.8. No messages in Time Machine buddy, and no error messages. So sorry, Apple, but the problem is not fixed yet.

  • John Galt Level 7 Level 7 (33,100 points)
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    Nov 10, 2012 10:39 PM (in response to RocketRiter)

    Hi RocketRiter

     

    Post your question over at the OS X Mountain Lion forum, because this problem was caused by a specific Lion update that has been conclusively addressed. The remedy does not apply to your Mac.

     

    The cause of your difficulties is unrelated to this one. I suspect you need to start with the basics to diagnose what could be wrong.

    MacBooks  iMacs  iPods  AirPorts, OS X Mountain Lion,  27 years Apple!
  • FraMac Calculating status...
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    Nov 23, 2012 4:35 AM (in response to Pondini)

    Hi Pondini,

     

    I have paged through this forum and your guide on TimeMachine trying to understand why timemachine takes ages (4 hrs) to do hourly incremental backups. I have tried all the suggested fixes but unfortunately none worked out.

     

    The oddness is that I cannot see any error whatsoever, trouble still as I cannot have a proper hourly incremental backup, but basically one every 4 hrs.

     

    Could you please have a look at the below?

     

     

    Here some details of my configuration + tm console logs:

     

    -   MacMini Server

    -   10.7.5 (11G63) ( supplemental upgrade didn't address the issue)

    -    2Ghz i7

    -   16GB ddr 3 1333Mhz

     

    - Backup to external hd ( l4cie thunderbolt - 1TB 7200 RPM)

     

     

    Nov 23 00:40:22 bwserver com.apple.backupd[23974]: 4.27 GB required (including padding), 247.03 GB available

    Nov 23 01:09:40 bwserver com.apple.backupd[23974]: Copied 454.2 MB of 1.2 GB, 287505 of 287505 items

    Nov 23 01:48:18 bwserver com.apple.backupd[23974]: Copied 604699 files (1.1 GB) from volume datastore.

    Nov 23 01:54:04 bwserver com.apple.backupd[23974]: Copied 607561 files (1.2 GB) from volume Server HD.

    Nov 23 02:16:45 bwserver com.apple.backupd[23974]: 4.67 GB required (including padding), 244.54 GB available

    Nov 23 02:54:05 bwserver com.apple.backupd[23974]: Copied 764.6 MB of 764.6 MB, 417958 of 417958 items

    Nov 23 03:01:34 bwserver com.apple.backupd[23974]: Copied 468945 files (829.7 MB) from volume datastore.

    Nov 23 03:02:06 bwserver com.apple.backupd[23974]: Copied 471325 files (835.2 MB) from volume Server HD.

    Nov 23 03:31:51 bwserver com.apple.backupd[23974]: Starting post-backup thinning

    Nov 23 04:36:38 bwserver com.apple.backupd[23974]: Deleted /Volumes/tmbackups/Backups.backupdb/bwserver/2012-11-20-121028 (1.41 GB)

    Nov 23 04:36:38 bwserver com.apple.backupd[23974]: Post-back up thinning complete: 1 expired backups removed

    Nov 23 04:36:39 bwserver com.apple.backupd[23974]: Backup completed successfully.

    Nov 23 05:09:15 bwserver com.apple.backupd[33814]: Starting standard backup

    Nov 23 05:09:15 bwserver com.apple.backupd[33814]: Backing up to: /Volumes/tmbackups/Backups.backupdb

    Nov 23 05:34:41 bwserver com.apple.backupd[33814]: 6.04 GB required (including padding), 245.86 GB available

    Nov 23 06:09:40 bwserver com.apple.backupd[33814]: Copied 600.0 MB of 1.8 GB, 408869 of 408869 items

    Nov 23 06:30:34 bwserver com.apple.backupd[33814]: Copied 612935 files (1.8 GB) from volume datastore.

    Nov 23 06:31:16 bwserver com.apple.backupd[33814]: Copied 614309 files (2.3 GB) from volume Server HD.

    Nov 23 06:45:07 bwserver com.apple.backupd[33814]: 5.24 GB required (including padding), 243.52 GB available

    Nov 23 07:10:30 bwserver com.apple.backupd[33814]: Copied 337949 files (594.6 MB) from volume datastore.

    Nov 23 07:11:03 bwserver com.apple.backupd[33814]: Copied 338800 files (1.0 GB) from volume Server HD.

    Nov 23 07:28:32 bwserver com.apple.backupd[33814]: Starting post-backup thinning

    Nov 23 08:06:50 bwserver com.apple.backupd[33814]: Deleted /Volumes/tmbackups/Backups.backupdb/bwserver/2012-11-20-071612 (939.3 MB)

    Nov 23 08:06:50 bwserver com.apple.backupd[33814]: Post-back up thinning complete: 1 expired backups removed

    Nov 23 08:06:51 bwserver com.apple.backupd[33814]: Backup completed successfully.

    Nov 23 08:09:16 bwserver com.apple.backupd[37917]: Starting standard backup

    Nov 23 08:09:16 bwserver com.apple.backupd[37917]: Backing up to: /Volumes/tmbackups/Backups.backupdb

    Nov 23 08:31:51 bwserver com.apple.backupd[37917]: 4.93 GB required (including padding), 244.45 GB available

    Nov 23 09:09:42 bwserver com.apple.backupd[37917]: Copied 560.8 MB of 906.8 MB, 395923 of 395923 items

    Nov 23 09:30:02 bwserver com.apple.backupd[37917]: Copied 559295 files (1001.3 MB) from volume datastore.

    Nov 23 09:30:39 bwserver com.apple.backupd[37917]: Copied 560505 files (1002.9 MB) from volume Server HD.

    Nov 23 10:00:36 bwserver com.apple.backupd[37917]: 5.15 GB required (including padding), 243.46 GB available

    Nov 23 10:30:40 bwserver com.apple.backupd[37917]: Copied 525.8 MB of 1.1 GB, 311347 of 311347 items

    Nov 23 11:03:16 bwserver com.apple.backupd[37917]: Copied 658318 files (1.2 GB) from volume datastore.

    Nov 23 11:03:46 bwserver com.apple.backupd[37917]: Copied 659301 files (1.2 GB) from volume Server HD.

    Nov 23 11:44:37 bwserver com.apple.backupd[37917]: Starting post-backup thinning

     

    note : at 12:35 still on: Nov 23 11:44:37 bwserver com.apple.backupd[37917]: Starting post-backup thinning

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    Nov 23, 2012 7:30 AM (in response to FraMac)

    Hi,

     

    I'm not familiar with the server product;  Time Machine should be largely the same as on the client version, but I've never tested it.

     

    And I don't have a Thunderbolt drive; of course, it should be much faster than USB or FireWire, but I've not tested it.

     

    Is the Thunderbolt drive dedicated exclusively to Time Machine backups of the server, or is there other data on it?

     

    Is anything else on the Thunderbolt channel, besides the LaCie?

     

    Do you have access to a USB or FireWire drive you could try temporarily -- that would either rule out or suggest a problem with the LaCie or Thunderbolt channel.

     

    Have you worked your way through the green box in #D2 of Time Machine - Troubleshooting?  That's a lot, I know, but many things can be involved.

  • Cyberspace Travel Calculating status...
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    Jan 19, 2013 3:01 PM (in response to Ronni DC)

    I'm in exactly this situation.  I just got a brand new iMac i7 (late 2012 edition),

    and got a La Cie RAID thunderbolt backup, configured it as a RAID 1 (3TB).

     

    I'm running Mountain Lion, 10.8.2, installed with the machine.

     

    I used Migration Assistant to bring over my old files.

    I enabled Time Machine backups on the new La Cie,

    and it's been almost 24 hours and Time Machine has only

    backed up about 4Gb of 200Gb.  At this rate it's going to

    take over a month to finish backing up.

     

    Because my (not cheap) backup drive is brand new (it all is)

    I have to wonder if it's in my new hardware, or thunderbolt or what.

    However, Spotlight is still indexing and my suspicion is some kind of

    deadlocking going on between the two.  

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    Jan 19, 2013 3:09 PM (in response to Cyberspace Travel)

    Cyberspace Travel wrote:

    . . .

    However, Spotlight is still indexing and my suspicion is some kind of

    deadlocking going on between the two.  

    Yes, absolutely. Lots of folks have seen that.

     

    That may not be the whole story, but it's at least a major part or it.  I'd cancel the backup, and let Spotlight finish doing it's thing.   

     

    EDIT: It's rarely that bad, however, so something else may be wrong. 

     

    When you start the next one, it will take a while -- it will have to "catch up" with the cancelled one.  But if it's also extremely slow, see the green box in #D2 of Time Machine - Troubleshooting

     

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