9 Replies Latest reply: Jan 23, 2013 4:30 PM by aapl.crox
aapl.crox Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I'm starting to learn about printing with aperture. First thing I learned is that printing without borders is bad, it will crop off your image (although with retain size you can choose your own cropping). So now I'm sticking with printing with borders. However one thing I noticed is that there seems to be a minimum margin for printing (0.32cm). Is there anyway to go below that?

  • 1. Re: Is there a minimum margin for printing?
    Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,920 points)

    Margin limits and borderless printer options are all, afaik, set by the printer.  Your printer manual likely lists its specs.  ("Borderless" means printing the entire sheet of paper, with no unprinted area showing.  It is not the same as printing with no added border.  "Borderless printing" should be called "Marginless printing".)

     

    Generally, you should crop a Version in Aperture, and then print it. Using the print controls to crop is simply not a recommended workflow.

     

    You can certainly print uncropped Images without borders.  I do it all the time.

  • 2. Re: Is there a minimum margin for printing?
    aapl.crox Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    But there's only three options in aperture for me. Either with border, choose my own crop (retain size) or printer choose the crop for me (auto expansion - forgot the exact wording here). So what should be the steps to print without borders and without crop? I've read that this is not possible because you can't be exact with paper feeding?

  • 3. Re: Is there a minimum margin for printing?
    Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,920 points)

    Different printers have different options, drivers, controls, etc. -- but let's see if we can puzzle this out.

    aapl.crox wrote:

     

    But there's only three options in aperture for me. Either with border, choose my own crop (retain size) or printer choose the crop for me (auto expansion - forgot the exact wording here).

    Where do you see this?

    So what should be the steps to print without borders and without crop?

    Select Image.  "File➞Print".  Select a Preset such as "Standard".  Uncheck "Layout: Crop Image to Fill".  Set "Image Options:  Border Size" to 0.00.  Click "Print".

    I've read that this is not possible because you can't be exact with paper feeding?

    Where did you read this?  Are you refering to "Borderless printing" or to printing without a border?  As I mentioned, these are not the same.

  • 4. Re: Is there a minimum margin for printing?
    aapl.crox Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have a epson r3880 do you know which mode (borderless/without border) do I need to print without border and without cropping?

  • 5. Re: Is there a minimum margin for printing?
    Ernie Stamper Level 8 Level 8 (37,475 points)

    What paper size have you selected?  With the Epsons I have used, borderless is only available with certain standard size sheets, and when choosing size there will be one entry with citation of being for borderless, and another without that.

     

    Ernie

  • 6. Re: Is there a minimum margin for printing?
    aapl.crox Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

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    I'm trying to print 4x6 and this is what's show in my screen. Which option should I go with if I don't want border and don't want crop? Is it possible?

  • 7. Re: Is there a minimum margin for printing?
    Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,920 points)

    You have to tell us what you mean by "border" and by "crop".

     

    Border:

    - a blank space left around a printed picture when the picture is printed to a size smaller than the paper on which it is printed

    - a usually non-white rectangular frame added to a picture when it is printed.

     

    Crop:

    - to select part of an electronic image, discarding or hiding the rest

    - to trim a printed picture.

  • 8. Re: Is there a minimum margin for printing?
    Ernie Stamper Level 8 Level 8 (37,475 points)

    Have you tried using the Sheet Feeder -- borderless (retain size) choice?

     

    Ernie

  • 9. Re: Is there a minimum margin for printing?
    aapl.crox Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Kirby, I thought border and crop would be pretty clear? When I print with border the entire photo is shown. But there's a white margin around the photo.

     

    When I print without border (auto expend or retain size) the white margin is no longer there, but the photo is cropped. Meaning some part of the photo is not printed. You lose some part of the image. You can actually quite easily tell this even in the print dialog by just dragging the image left or right, it will shift indicating that not the entire photo will be printed.