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  • 15. Re: Editing loops
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,645 points)

    but my cursor made a grey rectangle in the region  when I attempted to drag and drop.

     

    Click right into the middle of the loop to select it, Nick. It should turn a little darker to show it has been selected. Then hold down the mouse button in the middle of the loop while you drag it along the track in the timeline.

  • 16. Re: Editing loops
    gaginker Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Danke, Erneut, Leonie.

     

    Maybe what I need is "Garageband. Elements" , like we use in Photoshop......

     

    Until next time, thank you,

     

    Nick

  • 17. Re: Editing loops
    gaginker Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    The loop settings are impossible to get right, I'm afraid. Need about a half-second gap between loops , but no matter how much I cut and stretch, it's never  quite there.

     

    I'll  abandon the loops and have a friend play the same bass line over again and again.

     

    But thanks for your help, anyway.

     

    Nick

  • 18. Re: Editing loops
    StingerStevens Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Good advice aboutusing the editor. No question cleaning up the beginning and endings of a loop are best done in the editor by the above mentioned method. Once you get the hang of it, you'll use that technique even in other places as it's very simple and fast because you just use a mouse to erase.

     

    Example: cut notes off the end of a segment to 'clean up' a part. Instead of muting or lowering volume use th 'T' method to cut, go to editor, and wipe the unwanted part away. Why? otherwise during a later mix you might make the mistake of using the part.

     

    Back in the days of film, photographers used to use a hole punch to ruin negatives they deemed not acceptable. That's where I originally got the idea and just applied it to GarageBand.

  • 19. Re: Editing loops
    Edgar Level 4 Level 4 (1,155 points)

    gaginker wrote:

     

    ... Not sure what a 'region' is......


    ... It might help if I knew how to move regions ...


    ... I really need to know how to edit each end of the loop before looping it.


    ... Maybe what I need is "Garageband. Elements" , like we use in Photoshop.....


     

     

    Nick,


    you are lucky to have such patient and knowledgeable  forum members as Christoph and Leoni. In any other less friendly forum you would be greeted with the RTFM response.


    One confusion about your question is that it is not clear what "loop" you are referring to.


     

    1. "to loop": This is an editing technique where you use a command to automatically repeat a specific Region (until an end point) instead of manually copying the Region and put it one after another.
    2. "Apple Loop": This is a specific  audio file with additional abilities. It can follow whatever tempo or key your Song is in. It has additional information embedded that lets you search for it. It is truncated so it is easy to "loop" it (see 1)


    Besides that, you really have to do your homework and read up on the basic features in GarageBand. You acknowledge that already in your posts. The advice given here on the forum doesn't do you any good if you don't know the basics of Regions, moving Regions, editing Regions, etc. That is explained in the manuals and many YouTube videos.


    I think the forum should be here to help you when you have trouble editing. show you tricks, etc but not teach you how to edit.

    A "GarageBand Element" wouldn't do you any good either. You are referring to an app that has less features. However, this still would require that you read the manual and understand how to use the basic features.

    The problem you are having is not that looping is too complicated. It is a very basic editing techniques, but you need a basic understanding of GarageBand and its components first (regions, trimming, move, etc). It is very simple. Once you understand those basic steps but still have questions, then the forum is here to clarify whatever needs further explanation.


    If I understand your problem correctly, then it is a about proper truncating the Region. It has to fit into the bar and beat grids (or the "vertical lines" as you are referring to it). If the Region you want to loop has to fit in your rhythmical grid then that is the first requirement before looping it.


    Here is an example with two Regions, the top one (1) with gaps at the beginning and end. The Region below (2) is truncated so there are no gaps and length fits exactly in two bars

     

    Loop1.png


    The next example shows what happens when you loop the first Region (un-truncated) and second Region (truncated). The first one will not line up with your bars (the numbers above the timeline), it will "drift". The second Region will loop perfectly, lining up with the  downbeats of the Song.

     

     

    Loop2.png

     

    Hope that helps

     

    Edgar Rothermich

    http://DingDingMusic.com/Manuals/

    'I may receive some form of compensation, financial or otherwise, from my recommendation or link.'



  • 20. Re: Editing loops
    gaginker Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Edgar....

     

    Many thanks for your expert advice.

     

    Your time is appreciated.

     

    N

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