13 Replies Latest reply: Jan 22, 2013 5:09 AM by Profero
Profero Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Is this really so?


Power Mac G5 (Early 2005), Mac OS X (10.5.8), RAM 3 GB, Serial# CK514HLSRU2
  • 1. Re: iCloud supports Windows 7 & 8 - but not MacOS below 10.7.5 ?
    Winston Churchill Level 10 Level 10 (81,980 points)

    Yes.

  • 2. Re: iCloud supports Windows 7 & 8 - but not MacOS below 10.7.5 ?
    Profero Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I just found out iCloud does actually work on PowerMacG5 OS 10.5.8.

     

    However, it seems that the iCloud technique used communicates more slowly with the PowerMac and/or vice-versa. But it works.

     

    Thus, the information regarding the system req's page is incomplete, although correct concerning limitations:

     

    iCloud: System requirements

    Minimum operating system requirements

    You may also use iCloud with the following operating system versions

    Mac

    • OS X Lion v10.7.5 or later*


    * Note: Although you can use iOS 5 and OS X Lion as noted above, you will not be able to take advantage of some iCloud features, such as Shared Photo Streams, iCloud Tabs, Find My iPhone Lost Mode, Documents in the Cloud for iWork, and Find My Friends location-based alerts.

    So the answer is: No and Yes with limitations.

  • 3. Re: iCloud supports Windows 7 & 8 - but not MacOS below 10.7.5 ?
    Winston Churchill Level 10 Level 10 (81,980 points)

    Unless you have OS X 10.7.2 or better installed the only component of iCloud you can use is email.

     

    If you have Lion (of which 10.7.5 is the up to date version), you can access contacts, calendars etc, but with restrictions.

     

    If you have Mountain Lion (of which 10.8.3 is the up to date version), you have no restrictions.

  • 4. Re: iCloud supports Windows 7 & 8 - but not MacOS below 10.7.5 ?
    Profero Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Winston,

    "Unless you have OS X 10.7.2 or better installed the only component of iCloud you can use is email."

      Since it seems 10.5.8 can access and use the other components too, what restrictions are you referring too?

              Apple - ICloud image.jpg

    "If you have Lion (of which 10.7.5 is the up to date version), you can access contacts, calendars etc, but with restrictions."

    What restrictions are you referring too?

     

    The only error I've found so far is by this link:

         http://www.apple.com/apps/pages/

     

    that responds with this error message Hmm_the page.jpg

    regardless of OS when clicking either one of "Get[Keynote/Pages/Numbers]" blue button here:

         https://www.icloud.com/#iwork

              iClod for_.jpg

    (This does not seem to have anything to do with OS version or platform, however.)

     

    Does not all this to some extent contradict what you have stated?

    Please give me an example of any restriction.

    Regards

  • 5. Re: iCloud supports Windows 7 & 8 - but not MacOS below 10.7.5 ?
    Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 Level 9 (65,505 points)

    Profero wrote:

     

    I just found out iCloud does actually work on PowerMacG5 OS 10.5.8.

    No it doesnt (excepting only that you can set up Mail to access the messages), and that System (Leopard) isn't mentioned anywhere in the page you linked to. The minimum is 10.7.2 (Lion).

  • 6. Re: iCloud supports Windows 7 & 8 - but not MacOS below 10.7.5 ?
    Julian Wright Level 7 Level 7 (34,850 points)

    Mac OS X 10.5.8 can access iCloud.com via a supported browser, but that is not the same as using iCloud directly through the desktop apps on your Mac which requires 10.7.5 and the iCloud system preferences pane.

  • 7. Re: iCloud supports Windows 7 & 8 - but not MacOS below 10.7.5 ?
    Profero Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @Julian,

    Thank you. Now we're getting somewhere. This explains why PowerPC's OS 10.5.8. actually work with iCloud without the mentioned system preferences pane only found on 10.7.5 (and above).

    (The preference pane was not mentioned by Apple as a particular requisite.)

     

    But then, why is Windows 7/8 mentioned by Apple as functioning operating system?

    Are there apps on Windows that access iCloud without a browser?

     

    So, some questions remain.

     

    And I am still wondering about this linkshowing errors:

    ?     http://www.apple.com/apps/pages/

  • 8. Re: iCloud supports Windows 7 & 8 - but not MacOS below 10.7.5 ?
    Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 Level 9 (65,505 points)

    10.5.8 can only access the iCloud website; it can't sync your calendars and contacts etc to iCloud for access online and further syncing to other devices, which is the whole point of iCloud.This renders the website pretty useless apart from email.

     

    As we've discussed, Lion 10.7.2 and above are required to be able to use these facilities. Windows uses a downloadable iCloud Control Panel to enable similar syncing with Outlook.

     

    As to pages, these links may be what you are looking for:

     

    http://www.apple.com/iwork/pages/ (for the Mac version)

     

    https://itunes.apple.com/app/pages/id361309726?mt=8 (for the iOS version)

  • 9. Re: iCloud supports Windows 7 & 8 - but not MacOS below 10.7.5 ?
    Winston Churchill Level 10 Level 10 (81,980 points)

    I'm not quite sure what the point of the post now is, are you debating which Mac operating systems support iCloud and which don't or are you questioning why older Mac operating system don't whereas windows system do.

     

    We have already covered the former, any operating system prior to 10.7.2 doesn't support iCloud and you will need to use the web portal for access using Safari 6 or better or IE9 or better.

     

    On the second point, think of it this way. The Mac applications that use iCloud data do so via the operating system so that the user has access to this data in everything they do, the PC equivalents sort of sit on top of the operating system and aren't as integrated into the user experience.

     

    Because iCloud is tied to the operating system on a Mac, it can only work with systems that were built for it and can't work with earlier systems, on the PC iCloud works with a control panel which is installed separately from the OS and therefore has some backwards capabilities.

  • 10. Re: iCloud supports Windows 7 & 8 - but not MacOS below 10.7.5 ?
    Profero Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @Roger,

    Thanks for giving me a better view of the whole picture.

     

    iCloud via Safari on the PowerPC G5 syncs well with my iPhone.

     

    Tested:

    1) Mail

    2) Contacts

    3) iCalendar.

    4) Notes

    5) Find my iPhone

     

    What doesn't work is the blue "Get" link here: 

    https://www.icloud.com/#iwork

    apart from linking to a page with this message:

    "Hmm, the page you’re looking for can’t be found."

  • 11. Re: iCloud supports Windows 7 & 8 - but not MacOS below 10.7.5 ?
    Profero Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @Roger

    Thanks

  • 12. Re: iCloud supports Windows 7 & 8 - but not MacOS below 10.7.5 ?
    Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 Level 9 (65,505 points)

    Yes, the iCloud website will sync with your iOS5/6 iPhone, but it won't do the other leg and sync with your Leopard Mac. With a compliant Mac changes made on the iPhone would appear on the Mac and vice versa.

     

    The blue button link on the page you link to doesn't work, as you say. You can get the iOS Pages app in the App Store on your phone, or in the App Store in iTunes on your Mac and sync it to the phone using iTunes. You can apparently only purchase Pages in the Mac App Store, for which you need Snow Leopard, though you might be able to get the iWork box set from Amazon (check it will run on your computer): however you won't be able to sync it with iCloud and thus with the iPhone.

  • 13. Re: iCloud supports Windows 7 & 8 - but not MacOS below 10.7.5 ?
    Profero Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @Winston

    The point was to find out how to use iCloud with a PowerPC OS 10.5.8, which we now have found works well, apart from the fact that iCloud is not completely integrated.