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Safari Menu Bar Hiding... in Snow Leopard? Video linked.

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Michael Mortilla Level 2 Level 2 (285 points)
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Oct 7, 2011 5:59 PM

For a brief moment today, Snow Leopard thought it was Lion and the Menu bar hid, but only in Safari. Here is a quicktime movie I made of the oddness:

 

http://www.midilifecrisis.com/SafariMenuBar.mov

 

After restaring Safari, the menu bar stayed in place, but I would LOVE to know how to do this in SL. If only I could do that in my other apps as well!

 

Any of you seasoned pro know what caused this? I am not running any 3rd party stuff like Windowshade.

 

Thanks in advance for all popsitive contributions to the thread.

Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8), Also MBP.
  • ~Bee Level 7 Level 7 (30,580 points)

    Michael --

     

    Have you installed any third party enhancing apps?

    Changes menus, icons, anything like that?

     

    Also, have you read this?

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2746806?threadID=2746806&tstart=360

  • ~Bee Level 7 Level 7 (30,580 points)

    Michael --

     

    I'm going to ask a friend that knows a whole bunch more about QT.  If he knows any more, I'm hoping he'll jump in here.

  • EZ Jim Level 7 Level 7 (21,260 points)

    Hello  Michael,   (and ~Bee, too.   )

     

    Unless your movie is showing the screen of a second display that is setup as an

    extended (NOT mirrored) desktop as explained in this article,

     

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.6/en/8378.html

     

    I think that what you experienced is a glitch that can be cured by restarting Mac.

     

    While in their full screen mode, a few apps like QuickTimePlayer & DVDPlayer hide Finder's menu bar.  However, with these apps in  full screen mode, no part of the desktop shows.

     

    Moreover, other than while operating in the aforementioned Extended Desktop, I know of no way to hide Finder's menu bar while leaving any application window frame visible in either Snow Leopard or in Lion.  However, that fact should not keep you from upgrading to Lion for other reasons if you so desire.

     

     

    Finally, if you have enabled Safari's Developer Menu items and are using some of them, please include the particulars if any reply is required.

     

     

     

     

     

    Mac Pro Quad Core (Early09) 2.93Ghz OSX 10.6.8 & 10.7.1   24" LED Cinema Display
    MBP 15" i7  (Early'11) OSX 10.7.1                        13" MBP (Mid'09) 2.26GHz OSX 10.7.1

  • ~Bee Level 7 Level 7 (30,580 points)

    Yay, EZ!

    Thanks a bunch!

  • EZ Jim Level 7 Level 7 (21,260 points)

    You're welcome, Michael.

     

    Thanks for the additional info.  I am pleased that you found such a simple fix.  However, I note that:

    Michael Mortilla wrote:

    ... The only apps active at the time were Safari, Quickeys, and Mail....

    The fact that you use the third party Quickeys app

    http://startly.com/products/quickeys/mac/4/

    is conflict with your earlier post that:

    Michael Mortilla wrote:

    ... Absolutely NO 3rd party system enhancements....

    I think ~Bee was on the right trail when she asked about third-party apps. 

     

    As reported in Quickeys' FAQs http://startly.com/support/faq_qkm4.html at least some users have reported conflicts.  I doubt that you will again experience your anomoly if you uninstall Quickeys.

     

     

    Michael Mortilla wrote:

    ... a welcome anomaly! Too bad I can't get it back...

    If you still want to reliably use your unexpected menu bar hiding behavior, check your Mac's Quickeys > Help or visit the Quickeys Support Page: http://startly.com/support/  Perhaps you can find our how to make this happen from the dedicated Quickeys Community or directly from the developer's e-mail technical support.

     

     

    Michael Mortilla wrote:

    ...I'll leave the movie up a few more days in the event that someone may pop in with an idea.

    Good plan.  We will watch with you for other ideas that provide reasolution of your problem or allow closeout of your topic.

     

     

    Mac Pro Quad Core (Early09) 2.93Ghz OSX 10.6.8 & 10.7.1   24" LED Cinema Display
    MBP 15" i7  (Early'11) OSX 10.7.1                        13" MBP (Mid'09) 2.26GHz OSX 10.7.1

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  • EZ Jim Level 7 Level 7 (21,260 points)

    Michael Mortilla wrote:

    ...Once again, thank you both for your ideas and links.

    You're certainly welcome, Michael.

     

    Here are a few thoughts on your other comments.

     

     

    Michael Mortilla wrote:

     

    Not really in conflict with my post as my intention was to indicate I was not using third party apps that affect (or effect) menu bar operations. Quickeys doesn't have an option to hide menu bars in any app. That is not to say that somehow it didn't magically effect the behavior, but as it is not a feature of the app that developer and community would have less of a clue than we are finding here in Apple Discussions....

    Quickeys is not an Apple product.  By definition, that makes it third party software.  I still see the conflict.  Without your statement that you had no third party system enhancements, ~Bee might have helped you to a quicker resolution.

     

    Regardless of your intent or Quickeys' options, it is clear from the FAQs that Quickeys' developers recognize at least some possible user problems with its software.  I do not know whether your condition arose from some unintended interaction between Quickeys and another system element, but it is at least possible.

     

    Notwithstanding, if the Finder/Safari menu bar never again disappears while you are using Quickeys, or if you do not mind the occasional Safari restart to correct the condition, there may be no need to consider uninstalling Quickeys. 

     

     

    Michael Mortilla wrote:

     

    .... you have to admit, it is pretty odd behavior and like nothing I've  seen in the 25+ years I've used Apple products....

    It may be odd behavior related to using Quickeys.  However, on properly working Macs that do not have third party system "enhancements," it is easy to make the top menu bar disappear if more than one display is connected and working.

     

    The top menu bar is never visible when a display is used as an "extended desktop". However, whenever the display is changed to "mirrored display" using the System Preferences > Displays settings checkbox, the top menu bar appears (so both displays look the same.)  Clicking repeatedly in the checkbox will toggle the top menu bar on and off.

     

     

    Anyway, it is nice exchanging ideas with another old-timer.  (I have been using Apple for 33+ years.)  As long as things keep changing and new product introductions continue, I guess we will keep seeing new things to keep us interested.

     

    Regards,

    Jim

     

     

    Mac Pro Quad Core (Early09) 2.93Ghz OSX 10.6.8 & 10.7.1   24" LED Cinema Display
    MBP 15" i7  (Early'11) OSX 10.7.1                        13" MBP (Mid'09) 2.26GHz OSX 10.7.1

  • macinfomo Calculating status...

    I do experience that same behaviour right now: Safari auto-hiding menubar in Snow Leopard 10.6.8.

     

    As it seems this has to do with full screen plugins used within Safari, I did browse flickr to show some photos at full screen, where menubar and dock get's hidden (which is normal).

     

    And if you now, by accident and just at the right moment, go out of full screen mode, Safari just doesn't get it fully ... the web page get's displayed as normal (in window mode), but the menubar of Safari stays hidden.

     

    Regards,

     

    Markus

  • Crissa Calculating status...

    I had the same thing happen today.  5.1.9, OS X 10.6.8.

     

    The menu bar would come back if I rolled the mouse vursor to that edge.  I could see why someone might want that, but it was really annoying.

     

    I don't have any of the programs mentioned earlier.

     

    -Crissa

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