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Stephen Schulte1 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

I realize that my Feb 2005 eMac (CRT-17") workhorse drops the internet (cable ethernet) very often- can run fine for 2 hours then drops the connection 3 times in 15 minutes.  IS IT POSSIBLE to repair this or get a new "ethernet" card without spending a small fortune (i.e. for less than $200 and hopefully a lot less…)??

 

OR:  Add WiFi to this Mac, but that is not my first choice as it is the furthest away from my WiFi points (plus I have ethernet cable running directly to this eMac and it works great for other Macs when tested.  Just this eMac that is dropping the connection).

 

Thanks and regards,

 

Steve

Sunday 6 January 2013


MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion, Also a Mac SE running 6.0.4 - not upgrading that!
  • 1. Re: Can I replace the ethernet card on my Feb 2005 eMac?
    edex67 Level 4 Level 4 (3,250 points)

    Forgot to mention this in the *other* thread:

    You can also purchase a WiFi AirPort card that can be installed. Look on iFixit for more info. These can be found on eBay.

    And of course, there's the previously mentioned USB Ethernet option.

  • 2. Re: Can I replace the ethernet card on my Feb 2005 eMac?
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,475 points)

    Hi, if you don't have an Airport card, & are using 10.3.9 or later, this will work...

     

    http://store.bearextender.com/products/bearextender-mini

     

    But, this has worked for a few...

     

    Make a New Location, Using network locations in Mac OS X ...

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2712

     

    10.5.x/10.6.x/10.7.x instructions...

     

    System Preferences>Network, click on the little gear at the bottom next to the + & - icons, (unlock lock first if locked), choose Set Service Order.

     

    The interface that connects to the Internet should be dragged to the top of the list.

     

    10.4 instructions...

     

    Is that Interface dragged to the top of Network>Show:>Network Port Configurations.

    If using Wifi/Airport...

     

    For 10.5/10.6/10.7/10.8, System Preferences>Network, unlock the lock if need be, highlight the Interface you use to connect to Internet, click on the advanced button, click on the DNS tab, click on the little plus icon, then add these numbers...

     

    208.67.222.222

    208.67.220.220

     

    Click OK.

  • 3. Re: Can I replace the ethernet card on my Feb 2005 eMac?
    Stephen Schulte1 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Thanks for your reply and sorry to be so long getting back (other issues with my home network, now resolved!)

     

    OK I went to my wife's Feb 2005 eMac (yes I know, an upgrade soon… but love this eMac!)-- and checked first the "Service Order"--- it was already set for Ethernet at the top.

     

    I am considering a bearextender mini for Mac-- but will try an ethernet to USB first as this Mac is NOT portable and ethernet cable is at the eMac.

     

    New Location:  OK I can make a new location entitle "eMac Home" for example -- but what do I change vs. the "automatic"??  I still want this eMac to be able to use FireWire for the Apple video camera for SKYPE…  What do I do / change / set in this new "eMac Home" location to make it different than Automatic?

     

    NOTE:  This eMac does NOT have WiFi -- but already I see that in the automatic setting there is (advanced button, DNS tab:  the numbers you suggested:   (Since I don't have WiFi on this eMac, does that mean I should DELETE these DNS numbers?)

    208.67.222.222

    208.67.220.220

     

    Thanks for any additional comments.

     

    Best regards,

     

     

    Steve Schulte

    Monday 14 January 2013

  • 4. Re: Can I replace the ethernet card on my Feb 2005 eMac?
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,475 points)

    Whichever Interface is at top & used for Internet, should have some DNS numbers, like the ones given.

     

    FW should not be affected unless you dragged it to the top of the list to try to use ot for Internet, I think it can be unchecked there even & not be affected fir other FW uses.

  • 5. Re: Can I replace the ethernet card on my Feb 2005 eMac?
    Stephen Schulte1 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    I went ahead and spent €30 (about $40) on a "hama" brand "Fast InternetU SB 2.0-Adapter".  It said OK for Mac 10.5.x and came with software.  I loaded this, restarted and plugged-in the ethernet cable to one end, the other end (USB) I plugged directly into one of the 3 USB ports on the eMac.

     

    NOTHING.

     

    Downloaded the "latest" software but still nothing.

     

    49244  Hama USB 2.0 Fast Ethernet Adapter, 10/100 Mbps

     

     

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    Have eMailed "Hama" - no reply yet.

     

    Any ideas?  In Network preferences there is no choice "USB"…

     

    The adapter has a MAC number written on its side-- how to input that or should I???

     

    Best regards,

     

     

    Steve Schulte

    Tuesday 15 January 2013

  • 6. Re: Can I replace the ethernet card on my Feb 2005 eMac?
    edex67 Level 4 Level 4 (3,250 points)

    Never heard of Hama but is there another Ethernet choice in System Preferences? The MAC address shouldn't be inputted as it identifies the network adapter (not to be confused with Mac). Personally I'd try and return it as faulty/incompatible and purchase one with reviews that say it works with Mac OS.

  • 7. Re: Can I replace the ethernet card on my Feb 2005 eMac?
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,475 points)

    After installing & rebooting, did you not get a "New port detected" in Network prefpane>Show:> Network Port configurations?

  • 8. Re: Can I replace the ethernet card on my Feb 2005 eMac?
    Stephen Schulte1 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Thanks for your reply.

     

    "hama" is a major German company that supplies all types of replacement cables, adapters, camera batteries and so much more.  You can google them or I think it is just hama.com or hama.de

     

    The Apple salesperson recommended this "hama" over the similarly priced Apple adapter-- he said the Apple ethernet to USB was just for the MacBook Air.  (But I think it would work on pre- Mac OS 10.6.6 systems…)

     

    I will keep trying-- once out of the welded blisterpak I am almost certain they won't take this back!  AND it should work - let's see if I get a reply from hama.

     

    Regards,

     

    Steve

    Thursday 17 January 2013

  • 9. Re: Can I replace the ethernet card on my Feb 2005 eMac?
    Stephen Schulte1 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Thanks - but "no" I did not get a message of "New Port Detected".  In fact, I am not sure where the "show" is in Network preferences to which you are referring.

     

    I open System Preferences on the eMac running Leopard 10.5.8 - and I see the various possible connections (Ethernet, FireWire and Bluetooth) - but nowhere do I see a "SHOW" button that I can click -- I see advanced and location…

     

    Any additional details would be great.  I will go do a restart and keep trying.

     

    Best regards,

     

     

    Steve Schulte

    Thursday 17 January 2013

  • 10. Re: Can I replace the ethernet card on my Feb 2005 eMac?
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,475 points)

    Oh, sorry, in 10.5 it changed...

     

    System Preferences>Network, click on the little gear at the bottom next to the + & - icons, (unlock lock first if locked), choose Set Service Order.

  • 11. Re: Can I replace the ethernet card on my Feb 2005 eMac?
    Stephen Schulte1 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    I did that a while ago-- there is no choice for this new "driver" - but when I get a chance I will get back to it and try to understand it.  "hama" has not replied to my eMail so I sent another…  We will see and I'll test on my PBG4 with Leopard as well.

     

    Best regards,

     

     

    Steve Schulte

    Saturday 19 January 2013

  • 12. Re: Can I replace the ethernet card on my Feb 2005 eMac?
    Stephen Schulte1 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    OK I got the "hama" USB2 to Ethernet adapter to work.  Had to delete their older software, install new and then attach PRIOR to restart, restart and voilà the new USB-Ethernet-1 was in Network preferences.

     

     

    BUT IT IS SO SO S-L--O---W……………  I tested it on both my PGB4 and the eMac:

     

    Power book G4 results:
    1. Ethernet connection: 1.8 to 2.2 Mb per second downloads of actual files

    2. Wi-Fi at a long distance from the Wi-Fi router: 900 kb per second

    3. The hama USB – ethernet adapter: 300 kb per second - again, downloads of actual files.

    I repeated these tests and also downloaded a 50 Mb file which took less than 30 seconds with the ethernet connection and about 4 to 5 minutes with the hama USB – ethernet adapter.

     

    eMac results:
    1. Ethernet cable:  2.2 Mb per second downloads of actual files

    2. USB – ethernet adapter: 400 kb per second file downloads

    3. Another type test with ethernet cable: Ping 30, download 18 Mb per second, upload 2.32 Mb per second.

    4. This same test using hama USB – ethernet adapter: Ping 28, download 4.66 Mb per second, upload varies 0.6 to max 2.08 Mb per second.

     

    Again these are averages as I did the tests several times each.

     

    I guess I did not expect the USB to ethernet adapter to be from 5 to 10 times SLOWER than the standard ethernet in my house.

     

    Wonder if the WiFi (external) would be faster?  But if the USB port is the limiting factory, maybe not…  (How does the external WiFi connect?)

     

    Any comments welcome--- I've also written to hama (they helped a lot earlier today) so maybe tomorrow some feedback.

     

    Best regards,

     

     

    Steve Schulte

    Thursday 24 January 2013

  • 13. Re: Can I replace the ethernet card on my Feb 2005 eMac?
    edex67 Level 4 Level 4 (3,250 points)

    Well, it depends if the eMac is USB1. If it is, this is just the limitation of the USB1 standard.

  • 14. Re: Can I replace the ethernet card on my Feb 2005 eMac?
    Stephen Schulte1 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    It is definitely USB 2.0: (But 100 Base-T)--Mine is the 160 gb HD model

     

    Are you thinking / saying that USB2 should be faster than I'm showing?

     

    THANKS for any feedback and again, perhaps the hama-guy will reply tomorrow.

     

    Best regards,

     

     

    Steve Schulte

    Thursday 24 January 2013

     

     

    eMac (2005) - Technical Specifications

     

    eMac (2005) - Technical Specifications

    ConfigurationsEDU [no optical]EDU CDComboSuper
    ModelM99832M99833M99834M9835
    Description1.25G/256/40/none1.25G/256/40/CD1.42G/256/80/Combo1.42G/512/160/Super
    Processor/SpeedG4 / 1.25 GhzG4 / 1.42 Ghz
    - L2 Cache512 KB (1:1)
    - L3 Cacheno
    Memory Included256 MB512 MB
    Memory Maximum1 GB
    Memory Slots2
    Memory Form/SpeedSDRAM (184-pin) / PC2700 - DDR333
    Hard Drive Size40 GB80 GB160 GB
    Hard Drive Type/SpeedUltra ATA/100 / 7200 RPM
    Optical Drive TypenoneCD-ROM (tray)Combo Drive (tray)SuperDrive (tray)
    DVD Decodingn/asoftware
    DVD+R (dual layer)n/a4x read6x read; 2.4x write
    DVD±RWn/a8x read8x read; 4x write
    DVD±Rn/a8x read8x read; 8x write
    DVD-ROMn/a12x read
    CD-RWn/a32x read; 24x write32x read; 8x write
    CD-Rn/a32x read; 32x write32x read; 24x write
    CD-ROMn/a32x read
    USB 1.0on keyboard (2)
    USB 2.03
    FireWire 4002
    FireWire 800no
    Expansion slotsnone
    Ethernet (built-in)100Base-T

     

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