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gols92 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Hello again,

 

I would like to know if the above processor is compatible with the Mac Pro mid 2010 model since i think that the westmere 3.33 model is too expensive, i was after another cost-benefit solution that would still get me a six core processor boost.

Xeon Six Core E5649

 

Ant suggestions and comments, please feel free.. im new to the mac hardware world, but have great knowledge on PC hardware assembly.

 

Thanks


Mac OS X (10.7.4), Intel Xeon 2.8GHZ, ATI RADEON 5770
  • 1. Re: Compatible processors mac pro mid 2010
    The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,880 points)

    from what?

     

    W3680 $619

  • 2. Re: Compatible processors mac pro mid 2010
    gols92 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    exactly,

     

    from the one you suggested earlier.. Since i live in Brazil, these things come quite pricey and hard to find.. therefore i need another good solution for a processor substitution. that is better than the original nehalem 2.8 quad-core, a six core to start off, and that is not too expensive..

     

    Thanks Hatter

  • 3. Re: Compatible processors mac pro mid 2010
    The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,880 points)

    build or just buy a PC and use Wibdows, a nice US$1200 system, based on $300 or less Sandy Bridge cpu

  • 4. Re: Compatible processors mac pro mid 2010
    gols92 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    That does not solve my question nor my problem.. I already have a Mac Pro which i bought in march this year.. I am now working to upgrade it, graphics card, processor, memory etc... I have aleady purchased new 1333 modules which are working at 1066 because of my processor and upgrading it to a model that accepts 1333 modules would give me a double boost, processor and memory at the same time...

     

    Thanks

  • 5. Re: Compatible processors mac pro mid 2010
    willp1 Level 1 Level 1 (75 points)

    You must be kidding Hatter, The most intrusive os in 17 years Windows 8. Lots of eye candy and no real improvements in security. No thanks Hatter.

     

    Willp

  • 6. Re: Compatible processors mac pro mid 2010
    gols92 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You are right Willp1,

     

    What I need is a suggestion for a cheaper cost-benefit, six core processor other than the expensive westmere W3680 that apple recomends. The one above is supposed to be a good alternative, what i needed to know is if its compatible and a good choice..

  • 7. Re: Compatible processors mac pro mid 2010
    gols92 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    If someone could please help me on this topic that would be great.. My question is still the same..

     

    Thanks

  • 8. Re: Compatible processors mac pro mid 2010
    Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (49,280 points)

    Unless you are doing rendering, these Macs (including yours) are rarely limited by compute-power. They are most often I/O limited.

     

    If you have not already created a separate Boot Drive, with only System, Applications, Library, and the hidden unix files including Paging/swap on it, you should do that right away. It will make everything faster because it reduces competition for the drives.

     

    Move the user files off, using a recipe like this one:

     

    Japamac's Blog: Make space for performance -- Moving the Home folder

  • 9. Re: Compatible processors mac pro mid 2010
    gols92 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have 2 HDD`s, one is empty with only the system files and is through this one that i do the booting. The other drive has all the files and is named Macintosh HD 2. I do lots and lots of rendering and sometimes I notice a reduction in iMovie performance. The main reason for my question is because i would like to perform a hardware upgrade on my Mac Pro to make it faster in an overall sense.

    I have already purchased 8GB of 1333 RAM but they are only running at 1066, only waiting for a processor that accepts 1333 RAMs.

    I would like to know if this processor is good enough or is the W3680 the right choice? I live in Brazil and these things come in really expensive here, the W3680 has a huge difference from the E5649. I just dont know if they are compatible and all...

     

    Thanks

  • 10. Re: Compatible processors mac pro mid 2010
    The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,880 points)

    Do you have 3x8GB RAM?

     

    Two disk drives may not be enough.

     

    Invest in scratch disk for one thing.

     

    Make sure the system is not used as primary scratch volume for each app.

     

    I said go PC because they do have cheap fast Sandy Bridge and later processors

     

    I've used Windows 8 for a year. I never touch the candy, never different and only better than 7 was in 50 ways. Serious. It is just an OS on top of the hardware and for your apps. Lots and lots of choices and sources for hardware in Brazil that you won't find for Apple products and upgrades, off the shelf. Computers are tools. If Linux can work for you fine. And those that are desperate enough go hackintosh. I don't and can't recommend it.

     

    Make specifically what? more RAM and disk arrays help. PCIe SATA for faster and more storage. SSDs even - not just for system but scratch or Aperture library

     

    You won't see or feel difference in RAM in real world More RAM usually until the system can't cache and CS6 or other apps don't. But less than 16GB you probably do.

     

    Wish there was a mandatory list of hardware, software used, upgrades. Generic "want faster" doesn't tell the story.

  • 11. Re: Compatible processors mac pro mid 2010
    SiredSon Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Hey Gols,

     

    If you're looking for the jump in performance I do believe you can upgrade to any chip that's listed as optional on the Mac Pro specs. You'll want the 2x6 core chips for the 1333Mhz speed bump in Ram, which are the W3680, the X5650, the X5670 and the X5675. All of which should work with your '2010' Mac Pro as all of the Mac Pros 2009-2012 share the Intel X58 chipset/mainboard.

     

    Again, don't follow my words like scripture, there could be some inherant compatibility with certain chips. I'm in the same boat as you with a 2010 Pro and will probably be doing something similar later this year.

     

    Cheers,

  • 12. Re: Compatible processors mac pro mid 2010
    gols92 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank You very much for the reply..

     

    The thing is... I live in Brazil, and prices here for electronics are sky rocketing high so these options you gave me are completely out of reach. But it was good to know some other models to look for. What about the E5649? or the E5650? they are 5.80 GT/s and are six cores, but the processing speed goes as hgh as 2.53Ghz... not so great huh?

     

    Thanks

  • 13. Re: Compatible processors mac pro mid 2010
    Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (49,280 points)

    The 5000 series are used in Macs with Dual Processor chips. If you do not have Dual processor chips already, you cannot use those.

     

    You have not convinced me that your problem is a lack of processing power. Many Mac Pros are Input/Output bound due to not enough drives working at once. Many more do not perform because they do not have enough memory for the tasks running at the same time, and they are simulating RAM with s-l-o-w disk Reads and Writes..

     

    First determine if you have enough real RAM. This article will help you:

     

    Using Activity Monitor to read System Memory and determine how much RAM is being used

     

     

    Then determining if you have enough processing power. This article is a start, but Activity Monitor also has a floating bar graph that you can invoke.

     

    Runaway applications can shorten battery runtime, affect performance, and increase heat and fan activity

     

     

    Both articles are available in other languages if you prefer to read them in Portuguese, for example.

  • 14. Re: Compatible processors mac pro mid 2010
    The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,880 points)

    So buy what  is available on t he PC market. They run great and stable and because t here are more users out  there. We have had someone from Brazil with exact complaints.

     

    And US$600 for any 6-ccore from Intel is darn cheap for i7 or W3xxx though you can get fully outfitted 'gaming' systems with excellent specs for $US1200. Whether you use Windows or not or something else is up to you. But if $600 seems prohibitive then workstations aren't for you to begin with is how I see it. They may be relics for all but more demanding and a 2013 iMac might be suitable. Maybe there is a good used market for yours.

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