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What are your thoughts on the New iTunes 11?

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  • Ellyenne Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 1:23 PM (in response to verbcrunch)


    verbcrunch wrote:

     

    I recently found a site that lets you download super high quality recordings - 192 kbps/24 bit.   A lot of classical and traditional music, nothing contemporary.      If I can find the URL i'll post it..

     

     

    Something I've been doing a lot is transcribing vinyl - recording my old records on a state of the art turntable/cartridge into state of the art Analog / Digital convertors at 96k/24 bits.    Then downgrading the capture to a 320 kbps mp3, stored in iTunes.   This is mostly for things i have that never made it to CD.

     

    PLEASE post the link to high quality classical.  That's half my library.

     

    I've also been transcribing my vinyl library, using a beat up JVC belt drive (but a lovely new half gram sylus), a $14 cable from Radio Shack to feed it into GarageBand at a rediculously high bit rate, then saving it to iTunes @ the highest possible "lossless" & ripping to smaller mp3 to export to my Android.  (I also sucessfully uploaded from a AIWA portable cassett player). My albums are old and well played, the tapes have been in cars for 20 years.

     

    This music still sounds better than the same albums purchased off of iTunes. I've done that test. Especily orchestral music. I can live with hiss & pops so long as the piano doesn't sound like a synthesizer.

     

    The new iTunes may make this much more difficult.  I haven't tried it since it got back. 

  • Mark Block Level 2 Level 2 (270 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 2:05 PM (in response to Ellyenne)

    I also hope verbcrunch posts a link. In the meantime....

     

    Alot of people at computeraudiophile.com seem to like qobuz: http://www.qobuz.com/boutique/classique/telechargement-ecoute-albums

     

    HD Tracks is the 600 lb gorilla for high-res downloads, and they now offer not only FLAC but AIFF and ALAC. Lot's of classical, in additon to rock and jazz. What is difficult to find out at HD Tracks is where the mix came from. From Warner Brothers labels, it's always from the now-defunct DVD-A remixes; from Sony labels it's always from the SACD remixes. Some stuff sounds excellent, some stuff is awful. That's not HD Tracks fault; it all has to dowith the quality of the source. I'd much rather listen to a great recording in the iTunes 256k AAC format than a bad recording at 24/192. BTW, I'm listening now to the new Aaron Neville doo-wop album from HD Tracks, "My True Story." It's beautiful in 24/192; worth the extra money.

     

    There are free downloads to sample from 2L Recordings. These are GREAT-sounding tracks. If you want proof that 24/192 is better than Redbook 16/44.1, just listen to the difference it makes with some of the classical tracks here:

    http://www.2l.no

  • Mark Block Level 2 Level 2 (270 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 3:58 PM (in response to Mark Block)

    Mark Block wrote:

     

    There are free downloads to sample from 2L Recordings. These are GREAT-sounding tracks. If you want proof that 24/192 is better than Redbook 16/44.1, just listen to the difference it makes with some of the classical tracks here:

    http://www.2l.no

    When you go to that 2L link, you have to click on the drop-down menu for the store on the upper right, then choose Test Bench HD Audio Files to get to the free downloads.

  • verbcrunch Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 7:08 PM (in response to Mark Block)

    Hey all, I found the link.     It's stolen from a thread about using Metric Halo gear for audiophile listening purposes.

     

    And..  it's from the same site Mark Block already posted !     http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html

     

    Along the was was this funny diagram that sums up a audiophile recording vs the end user:

     

    http://raveonstudio.blogspot.com/2013/01/modern-recording-by-jamie-tate.html

  • verbcrunch Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 7:12 PM (in response to Chief55m)

    Chief55m wrote:

     

    anyone having problems wiht  OS X 10.7.5 and iTunes, mine continualy freezes, get the spinng beach ball and have to force quit.  I cannot use iTunes, any ideas?

    Hey Chief55m -   Try turning off Genius.     It's under the "Store" menu.        When you launch iTunes, do it immediately before it freezes again.     I was having the same problem, now I'm trying to figure out how to restore Genius in iTunes 10.7.

  • NeilInOz Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 9:00 PM (in response to Ellyenne)

    Ellyenne, if you want to really transform your LP collection it is really cheap and easy. 500% improvement in five minutes. might be an exaggeration, but I do that. And no, I have no financial consideration in this! (It's at least 100%.)

     

    Years ago I bought a simple wet vacuum cleaner for LPs. It completely transforms them. Even some which I had played (I thought) to death came back almost to new, and some of those were irreplaceable.

     

    I never need to even think about a pop reducer. Not required, There are some pops still there, for old times' sake.

     

    It's the Nitty Gritty cleaner at a bargain price - you have to turn the record yourself rather than having a motor do it for you, and you have to own a vacuum cleaner to suck the stuff away. Called the KAB-EV1. $169. Yep. Turning the record by hand means you have more control, so it's a good thing.

     

    I use a solution of 95% distilled water, 5% isopropyl alcohol and a few drops of a wetting agent (dishwashing detergent will do at a pinch). If it doesn't come good on the first pass I clean it again, maybe a few more times.

     

    Enjoy! And go buy all those LPs at bargain prices!

     

    And when I buy a new LP I clean it before I play it, because there's a lot of crap there that you want to get rid of.

     

    And for really excellent tracks go to hdtracks.com - not cheap but awesome. That's the link. I'm buying Stones like I've never heard them.

     

    Neil

  • ben_bermuda Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 28, 2013 2:48 AM (in response to kickinchef247)

    I'd have to agree. Everybody I speak to in the entertainment biz cant believe that DJ was dropped. Bars clubs and DJ's everywhere used it, not to mention low power fm radio stations running it because it worked well as a auto playlist and put the right beat rate tracks together.

    Bring it back with a fade and go feature and it would make everybody i'm mentioned very happy. I must say the ui is just not intuitive. Leav's us all thinking that Jobs didnt get to look at it, and wouldn't have realeased it. Its difficult to understand for anybody who wa comfortable with older versions.

    Bad move apple.

  • ben_bermuda Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 28, 2013 2:48 AM (in response to Porf)

    I'd have to agree. Everybody I speak to in the entertainment biz cant believe that DJ was dropped. Bars clubs and DJ's everywhere used it, not to mention low power fm radio stations running it because it worked well as a auto playlist and put the right beat rate tracks together.

    Bring it back with a fade and go feature and it would make everybody i'm mentioned very happy. I must say the ui is just not intuitive. Leav's us all thinking that Jobs didnt get to look at it, and wouldn't have realeased it. Its difficult to understand for anybody who wa comfortable with older versions.

    Bad move apple.

  • verbcrunch Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
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    Jan 28, 2013 4:46 AM (in response to ben_bermuda)

    iTunes DJ is redundant in iTunes 11.      iTunes11 incorporates iTunesDJ across every playlist, and actually greatly expands your options compared to what you could do with iTunes DJ.         At first I was horrified "what, no iTunes DJ!?" but finally tried iTunes 11 specifically because the new "Play Next"   and "Add to Up Next" with integrated Genius suggestions is far more dynamic.    iTunes 11 also is better about not accidentally switching songs, warning you "are you sure you want to clear what you're playing now?"  - it's almost like it's designed to feed real time mix shows.

     

    Anyone who was using iTunes to play for a room or run a radio station that's complaining about iTunes DJ being gone hasn't yet expored what they can do in iTunes 11.     


    I've switched back to iTunes 10.7 for other reasons, but the new dynamic playlist in iTunes 11 is the main feature I really liked.

  • carolg1939 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 29, 2013 5:02 PM (in response to Porf)

    I have the same question as bloodwing (and others, I imagine) does the new CEO use apple products?  Do the people at apple use iTunes?  How could someone have let this go out the door?  They TOOK AWAY functions!! Maybe I have not found out how, but I used to be able to Sort (by album, song, artist) THEN say how I wanted to View.  And who was the bright bulb that removed cover flow. 

     

    And Job's not dead two years yet!  

  • ben_bermuda Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 29, 2013 5:24 PM (in response to Porf)

    ya, I just dont get it, but then maybe wall steet is sending a message. It's like a PC guy redesigned Itunes. In fact thats exactly how it seems.

    Epic fail comes to mind.

     

    bring back the ease and ui familiarity.

     

    Specifically, I know ppl say dj is in there, but actually its not. i cant glance at the before and after, and see the playlist on both sides without having to do all kinds of navigation. 

    It was called DJ for a reason, DJ's have their hands on other equipment, and cant be fn with a mouse and keyboard every sec they need to see whats happening.

     

    This and the Maps screw up is a sign of where apple is headed. My love affair is coming to an end, sadly.

    I'm selling my stock. now!

  • zerfer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 30, 2013 6:25 PM (in response to Porf)

    No cover flow--what a huge step backwards.  This is a case of a bad idea gaining traction and somehow being allowed to leave the office or boardroom or whatever.  What happened?  A little George Lucas syndrome, where the paeons were too scared to tell the higher ups that their new format has regressed to Suck?  Losing market shares to Windows?  ......?   ....?

  • Paul Richards4 Level 1 Level 1 (75 points)
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    Jan 30, 2013 11:58 PM (in response to Porf)

    ok after several weeks of using this i've had enough.

    i have an old iPod 1 that i only use when i go on holiday, and i've just realised that its not supported under iTunes11, so that's the end for me, I'm going back to 10.7.

    all the other problems have really annoyed me, but being told to throw away some perfectly serviceable Apple kit is just going too far.

     

    Since there are 79 pages of complaints about 11, could some kind soul repost the link for how to downgrade, to save me spending hours trawling through please?!

    and also, could someone tell me which date i use in Time Machine? i guess its the date Modified under ITunes prefs, as that looks like the date i "up"graded..?

     

    i must say i'm so disappointed to do this.

    this is me saying to myself that Apple have failed badly.

    i've been a hardline supporter of Apple for over 20 years, defending them and promoting them when i was surrounded by Windoze users.

    And now this...

  • rustyintegrale Level 1 Level 1 (60 points)
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    Jan 31, 2013 12:23 AM (in response to Paul Richards4)


    i've been a hardline supporter of Apple for over 20 years, defending them and promoting them when i was surrounded by Windoze users.

    And now this...

    I think that's the way the majority of us feel.

     

    Like you I have been a long-time supporter of Apple and have converted many people from Windoze. It galls me to criticise the company but frankly, after Maps, iCloud and now iTunes 11, it deserves to be taken down a peg or two.

     

    Apple has become arrogant, out of touch with it's users and seems to be taking a route of short-term profit maximisation at the expense of long-term loyalty (that it had enjoyed since the return of Steve).

     

    I wish I could feel different. But I really feel despondent. Apple is no longer different. It is just another corporate being run by bean counters.

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