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  • Leefromdurban Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 11:16 AM (in response to Csound1)

    Well, yes, the "other" platform I alluded to earlier is a paid one, clearly.  However, regardless of whether a message is private or between a client; sent items should never go missing! Just saying...

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,320 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 11:21 AM (in response to Leefromdurban)

    Leefromdurban wrote:

     

    Well, yes, the "other" platform I alluded to earlier is a paid one, clearly.  However, regardless of whether a message is private or between a client; sent items should never go missing! Just saying...

    While I certainly agree mail should not go missing the reality is that it can, that's when the advantage of a paid system (with sensible policies in force) becomes worth the money. How much could it cost you if emails that turn out to be evidentiary can't be found? Rather more than the cost of a good e-mail system I would venture.

     

    But as freebies go iCloud is good ....

     

    And read the terms and conditions first, you will be accepting them before you can use the system

  • Leefromdurban Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 11:26 AM (in response to Csound1)

    Yes, I think I am going to use the iCloud for student communications this year.

     

    I will give the T's and C's a read; why do you point them out? Something sinister I should be looking for?

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    Jan 27, 2013 11:37 AM (in response to Csound1)

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    If you really want reliable mail you will have to pay for it, then you can set the terms. Remember if a service is free, You are the product.

    I use free mail accounts only for junk. For my business I have my own domain and pay for excellent services like PHP, MySQL and others like many professionaly used mail accounts. Apple mail is not working reliable there. Postbox does. Even with the free account. If you really want reliable mail with IMAP on a mac: dont use mail.app. Thats my conclusion.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,320 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 11:43 AM (in response to Leefromdurban)

    Leefromdurban wrote:

     

    Yes, I think I am going to use the iCloud for student communications this year.

     

    I will give the T's and C's a read; why do you point them out? Something sinister I should be looking for?

    I think that it is a good idea to know the terms of any service that you will rely on for business, check out the parts about Apples obligations to you and your email address, don't be shocked, it is identical to all the other free email services. But provides no guarantees of continuity, availability, or even that it will exist next year, or next week for that matter.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,320 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 11:45 AM (in response to Everic)

    Everic wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    If you really want reliable mail you will have to pay for it, then you can set the terms. Remember if a service is free, You are the product.

    I use free mail accounts only for junk. For my business I have my own domain and pay for excellent services like PHP, MySQL and others like many professionaly used mail accounts. Apple mail is not working reliable there. Postbox does. Even with the free account. If you really want reliable mail with IMAP on a mac: dont use mail.app. Thats my conclusion.

     

    Then use Postbox.

  • Everic Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 11:46 AM (in response to Csound1)

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Actually email is extremely reliable and highly trackable, it does not 'get lost' somewhere. However free email systems offer none of the tools required in order to utilise these factors, you get what you pay for.

     

     

    Actually email was not made to send attachements. I have the issue only with mails with attachments, more or less larger attachments.Like I earlier said, I will get a massive speed update this week and I can imagine that the problem will be solved. Because here it happened only when it took some time to send a mail because of its size. Maybe I will do some tests.

  • Everic Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 11:52 AM (in response to Csound1)

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    Then use Postbox.

    Shure I do. But its sad nevertheless. Because mail is basically very, very nice and has many great features like setting the size of an image right out of the mail. I miss those features. But I prefer to miss that over missing sent mails.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,320 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 12:03 PM (in response to Everic)

    Everic wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Then use Postbox.

    Shure I do. But its sad nevertheless. Because mail is basically very, very nice and has many great features like setting the size of an image right out of the mail. I miss those features. But I prefer to miss that over missing sent mails.

    I don't have that issue, so I get to enjoy the great features.

  • Everic Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 11:59 AM (in response to Csound1)

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    I don't have that issue, so I enjoy the great features.

    Thank you for that very helpfull posting. But what are you looking for in this discussion then? Want to fell better than the others because you dont have the issue? Enjoy it too.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,320 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 12:03 PM (in response to Everic)

    Everic wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    I don't have that issue, so I enjoy the great features.

    Thank you for that very helpfull posting. But what are you looking for in this discussion then? Want to fell better than the others because you dont have the issue? Enjoy it too.

    What an attitude you have .... especially for someone who doesn't use Mail.

  • Everic Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 12:03 PM (in response to Csound1)

    Where I live we have a saying: How you call is how you hear the echo.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,320 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 12:04 PM (in response to Everic)

    Everic wrote:

     

    Where I live we have a saying: How you call is how you hear the echo.

    Local wisdom?

  • LateMacAdopter Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 9:34 PM (in response to Everic)

    What Csound1 has done is beautiful, in a way.  Especially for Apple.

     

    He has guided this discussion around to convincing everyone to get into iCloud and working around Mail by ditching decades-old accounts, or, well, just living with the problem.

     

    Has he actually helped anyone here?  Not really.  He hasn't solved anyone's problem. 

     

    He could do something really helpful as a Level 6 and tell us he is documenting these postings to send up the chain to Apple Support on the basic grounds that Apple Mail should play better with Yahoo given that ease-of-use has always been Apple's selling point.  Seamless integration...etc.

     

    No.  None of that for this guy.

     

    But, he will try to sell you on doubling down and just go full-bore and sink (and synch) everything into iCloud. 

     

    Before any of you do that...even if none of this dissuades you, at least consider how and for what you use iCloud for.  Steve Wozniak thinks you should be worried.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/06/steve-wozniak-cloud_n_1748269.html

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,320 points)
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    Jan 28, 2013 7:04 AM (in response to LateMacAdopter)

    LateMacAdopter wrote:

     

    What Csound1 has done is beautiful, in a way.  Especially for Apple.

    Your inability to get your mail working is sad, and your refusal to listen to suggestions sadder still.

     

    He has guided this discussion around to convincing everyone to get into iCloud and working around Mail by ditching decades-old accounts, or, well, just living with the problem.

    Once more you demonstrate your inability to read the thread

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    Yahoo works fine for me (and millions of others) on a Mac, in Mail, it's just such a crappy email system that I don't use it, if you are so devoted to Yahoo go find a platform that you are capable of setting it up on.

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