6 Replies Latest reply: Jan 28, 2013 7:36 PM by charlesatpulpadded
charlesatpulpadded Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I have edited a feature film... turns out it needs transcoding. Shot in 24p on a Panasonic to tape, needs processing as it currently displays as 30 frames and interlacing. I've tried transcoding the original files, but it seems they were shot and imported from tape so the cadences have changes. My idea was to export all the clips, since there won't be changes in the middle of a shot used, and transcode those. I tried media manager but I don't think it will export only the shots as used, it exports the entire media. How might I export all the shots as individual clips to transcode?


Final Cut Pro 6, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), Canon T3i
  • 1. Re: Export files for transcode
    Shane Ross Level 8 Level 8 (41,895 points)

    Reverse telecine needs to be done before you edit. Doing it after the fact is pretty complex, and will require rebuilding the edit in a new, 23.98 sequence as well.

     

    And you can't just export the final, and reverse telecine that. You need to remove the redundant frames from the source. 

     

    What is the final delivery of this project going to be? If it is DVD or BluRay, the current form is fine. TV's deal with interlacing fine. That's how most TV shows are done...shot on film at 24fps, telecined to tape at 30fps...edited at 30fps...aired at 30fps.

  • 2. Re: Export files for transcode
    charlesatpulpadded Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you for the information. Shot on card, you can reverse telecine anytime, having forgot to do so in the past, and replace the files and change the sequence, or cut and paste into a new one.

     

    I'm trying to find a way around this issue using tape. I didn't expect to export the entire project, but each shot and rt those.

     

    The final delivery will be DVD, but the DVDs I've had so far are a little deminished by the interlacing. Not awful, but could be improved, and I'm sure our distributor will notice. However, we're giving away digital copies online and cutting trailers, so I'd like to find a way to make this work.

  • 3. Re: Export files for transcode
    Shane Ross Level 8 Level 8 (41,895 points)

    I'm sorry, you've confused me.  First you say: "Shot in 24p on a Panasonic to tape, needs processing as it currently displays as 30 frames and interlacing." 

     

    Now you say: "Shot on card." 

     

    Which is it? Shot on P2 or shot on tape? 

     

    >you can reverse telecine anytime, having forgot to do so in the past, and replace the files and change the sequence, or cut and paste into a new one.

     

    Uh, no, you can't.  Not without having to completely redo your edit. Yeah, sure, you CAN reverse telecine any time. But, if you want to keep your edit, you need to do it first. You can't edit 29.97 material in a 29.97 timeline, reverse telecine the source files to 23.98...then automatically relink to them. The sequence is still 29.97, and the clips are still expecting 29.97 speed and timecoded media.  They won't relink to the new media.

     

    Tape or Card...the reverse telecine needs to be done first.

  • 4. Re: Export files for transcode
    charlesatpulpadded Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    It was shot on tape. I was comparing it to has it been shot on card.

     

    And yes, you can.

     

    I accidentally edited a project of interlaced files imported from a card. To fix it, I did reverse telecine, deleted the original files, changed the new file names to reference the originals, created a 24p sequence, relink, cut and paste the edits from the 30p sequence to the 24p sequence.

  • 5. Re: Export files for transcode
    Shane Ross Level 8 Level 8 (41,895 points)

    Wow. I've never heard of being able to reconnect clips originating as 30fps to 24fps media.  I've always gotten errors.  That's new to me.

  • 6. Re: Export files for transcode
    charlesatpulpadded Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Well, after transcoding in compressor there are two files, the original and the 24p. Move the original and rename the 24p file so fcp thinks it's the 30p file. This worked fine for importing from card, but on tape I assume the different cadence of each shot makes this an issue. I thought if there were a way to export each shot as a different clip, but no idea how to do that.