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Can I run Final Cut Express 4 in Mountain Lion?

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Tkusterb Calculating status...
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Jan 29, 2013 9:39 AM

I currently run Snow Leopard 10.6.8 on a 2010 MacBook Pro.

Can I use Final Cut Express 4 if I upgrade to Mountain Lion?

Thanks.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.2)
  • MartinR Level 6 Level 6 (14,560 points)
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    Jan 29, 2013 10:14 AM (in response to Tkusterb)

    While it may be possible, I would not advise it.   FCE, as you may know, was discontinued over 18 months ago, even before Lion was released.  It is not supported on Lion or Mt. Lion.

     

    Some people claim to have installed FCE from scratch on Mt. Lion but I don't know how they accomplished that since the FCE installer requires Rosetta, and Rosetta was discontinued in Lion.    And migration from another Mac has not been overly reliable with any of the pro apps including FCE.

     

    Beyond that, users have had inconsistent experience running FCE on Lion & Mt. Lion.  Some say it works, others have had inexplicable problems.  Of course, the problems always turn up at the least convenient moment, like right at the end of a big project.

     

    If you are using Lion or Mt. Lion, I recommend moving on to Final Cut Pro X.

  • MartinR Level 6 Level 6 (14,560 points)
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    Jan 29, 2013 10:18 AM (in response to Tkusterb)

    One thing you could do with your existing MBP would be to use both Snow Leopard and Mt. Lion.   Boot from Snow Leopard to run FCE; and boot from Mt. Lion for everyday purposes.

     

    You could do this by either 1) partitioning the system HD in your MBP and installing Snow Leopard + FCE in one partition and Mt. Lion + apps in the other partition or 2) install Snow Leopard + FCE on an external HD and boot from that when you want to edit video.

  • oneHvT Calculating status...
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    Jan 29, 2013 1:12 PM (in response to MartinR)

    BTW, Rosetta will install in Lion/Mountain Lion from a Snow Leopard install DVD, and run perfectly.  Once that is done, FCE will install, as will other legacy apps that require Rosetta.

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,550 points)
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    Jan 29, 2013 2:10 PM (in response to oneHvT)

    oneHvT wrote:

     

    BTW, Rosetta will install in Lion/Mountain Lion from a Snow Leopard install DVD, and run perfectly.  Once that is done, FCE will install, as will other legacy apps that require Rosetta.

    While there was some discussion on this forum a year ago that installing Rosetta into Lion would allow Final Cut's installer to work, there was also conflicting posts.  So unless you have done it yourself, repeating it might lead the OP to much work for nothing!  Have you successfuly run the FCE Installer in Lion/Mt. Lion by installing Rosetta?

     

    Legacy apps will NOT run in Mountain Lion or Lion whether or not you attempt to install Rosetta into the OS (other than running them by the "dual-boot" method suggested above or in virtualization).

  • Russ H Level 6 Level 6 (12,945 points)
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    Jan 30, 2013 9:25 AM (in response to MlchaelLAX)

    MlchaelLAX wrote:

    Legacy apps will NOT run in Mountain Lion or Lion whether or not you attempt to install Rosetta into the OS (other than running them by the "dual-boot" method suggested above or in virtualization).

    Hey Michael.

     

    I agree with the cautionary advice to FCE editors about updating.

     

    But just to let you – and others – know, many people are successfully running legacy Final Cut Studio apps on 10.7 and 10.8.

     

    Russ

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,550 points)
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    Jan 30, 2013 9:36 AM (in response to Russ H)

    Russ H wrote:

     

    MlchaelLAX wrote:

    Legacy apps will NOT run in Mountain Lion or Lion whether or not you attempt to install Rosetta into the OS (other than running them by the "dual-boot" method suggested above or in virtualization).

    Hey Michael.

     

    I agree with the cautionary advice to FCE editors about updating.

     

    But just to let you – and others – know, many people are successfully running legacy Final Cut Studio apps on 10.7 and 10.8.

     

    Russ

    Then these applications are "Universal;" that is written to run on both PowerPC CPU and the Intel CPU and do not require Rosetta, which is missing from Lion/Mt. Lion

  • Alchroma Level 6 Level 6 (16,910 points)
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    Jan 30, 2013 5:58 PM (in response to Tkusterb)

    Varied results, theoretically no, but theories can be busted.

     

    See here:

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4142026?start=0&tstart=0

     

    Al

  • Meg The Dog Level 6 Level 6 (9,385 points)
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    Jan 30, 2013 6:40 PM (in response to MlchaelLAX)

    Yes, but the installer that came with original Pro Apps discs requires Rosetta. That is why the workaround of getting Rosetta from a previous OS install disc, and then using Rosetta to run the installer to install the Universal apps.

     

     

    MtD

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,550 points)
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    Jan 31, 2013 12:57 PM (in response to Meg The Dog)

    Meg: Do you have personal knowledge that installing Rosetta into Lion/Mt. Lion to install this works?

     

    I have yet to hear anyone's first hand confirmation; only repeats of repeats of claims that it works.

  • Meg The Dog Level 6 Level 6 (9,385 points)
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    Jan 31, 2013 3:47 PM (in response to MlchaelLAX)

    First hand knowledge? No, I don't.  But, on the other hand, I have yet to see a thread where after that option is given posters have returned to say it did not work. Have you?

     

    MtD

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,550 points)
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    Jan 31, 2013 4:17 PM (in response to Meg The Dog)

    Meg The Dog wrote:

     

    First hand knowledge? No, I don't.  But, on the other hand, I have yet to see a thread where after that option is given posters have returned to say it did not work. Have you?

     

    MtD

     

    Bobawa, a well respected contributor to this forum told me the following:

     

    I did install Rosetta and it appeared to work (no error messages), except that the effort seemed to be in vain - a PPC installer then did NOT work. I was not able to install or run AppleWorks.

     

    I was not able to install Final Cut Express - the installer is PPC and did not work. But, since FCE itself is Intel, I was able to manually move every file of the 20 or so over from a previous SL bootable clone and that worked. Without the bootable clone, it would not have worked.

     

    And the posts I have read that suggested it works, is for Lion and NOT Mountain Lion.

     

    Hence, we should be looking for someone credible to confirm that it works before anyone should send someone down that road.

  • Meg The Dog Level 6 Level 6 (9,385 points)
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    Jan 31, 2013 4:27 PM (in response to MlchaelLAX)

    What versions of the Pro Apps was "Bobawa" trying to install?

     

    MtD

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,550 points)
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    Jan 31, 2013 4:29 PM (in response to Meg The Dog)

    If you click on

     

    told me the following:

     

    it will take you to that thread.

     

    I was one of these "install Rosetta into Lion" repeaters, without any direct positive experience; until this discussion with Bobawa.

  • Meg The Dog Level 6 Level 6 (9,385 points)
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    Jan 31, 2013 4:31 PM (in response to MlchaelLAX)

    So it did not work for you?

     

    MtD

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