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  • japamac Level 7 Level 7 (24,390 points)
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    Jan 16, 2013 2:22 AM (in response to Gatogreensleeves)

    Could the update be the source of the panic report issue?

    Good question.

    To answer it, download the 10.5.8 Combo update, reboot to Safe Mode (Shift while starting) and run the downloaded update.

    Applying an update over the same version is not a problem. It will serve to "fill holes" in needed files (if necessary).

  • Gatogreensleeves Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 16, 2013 3:10 AM (in response to japamac)

    Great advice. I'll try that tomorrow.

     

     

    Lynx Aurora 8 is an A/D D/A professional audio converter that uses a sound card, the AES16. Do you think it requires a firmware update or something for Leopard that it didn't need in Tiger? It does get engaged when I open DP. It seemed to be working fine in DP too. Oh man, this looks bad.

  • japamac Level 7 Level 7 (24,390 points)
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    Jan 16, 2013 3:19 AM (in response to Gatogreensleeves)

    The Lynx driver does seem to be part of the issue. The "Data access" with "frame not mapped or invalid" panics are a pain. They can happen anywhere in the IO chain- CPU cache, memory, drive, drive cache and any connected device that has any onboard memory of any type.

    audio converter that uses a sound card

    Even those...

     

    So, given the report, I would look for updates to that driver.

     

    Audio guys always take it real hard when upgrading OS versions. So much software, let alone hardware, to update, and so often, one or two items failed to get the needed updates; the maker/developer didn't want to deal with it or discontinued support.

     

    Leave nothing to chance. Make a list of all 3rd party software and all thrid party hardware. Then, check with each items maker/developer for updates or known issues.

  • Gatogreensleeves Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 16, 2013 5:57 AM (in response to japamac)

    Oh man, it's such a pain, because I can't do the firmware updates through the Mac- only through my PC at home. I thought I was done with those years ago for that device... I'll look for the software updates first on those. The device is still very popular and hasn't lost any value, so that's good I guess.

     

     

    Is there some kind of driver updater software that would work well here? Something like Secunia (but better)?

     

     

    If all goes to ****, can I go back to Tiger and format my new HD to Tiger?

  • japamac Level 7 Level 7 (24,390 points)
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    Jan 16, 2013 6:02 AM (in response to Gatogreensleeves)

    If all goes to ****, can I go back to Tiger and format my new HD to Tiger?

    You should be able to.

    Best is to have the original Tiger drive (the one where everything worked) and try setting up Leopard on a second drive.

     

    Is there some kind of driver updater software that would work well here? Something like Secunia (but better)?

    I can't say....

    Time for leg work. Visit the various device makers forums. Search and ask if you don't find an answer.

  • Gatogreensleeves Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 16, 2013 4:48 PM (in response to japamac)

    Thanks so much japamac. Sadly, I didn't preserve that drive, because the new one wasn't formatted yet. At least I have all the installation DVDs, etc.

     

    Sure does look like the Lynx from the report. I haven't done a firmware upgrade in like 4 years and I bought a new computer since then when lighting blew up my old one. Not sure if I can even do firmware upgrades on my newer home PC. Didn't even bother to remember that I might need one that can accept PCI cards for that. I may need to send the Lynx to the factory for firmware, unless they can do them straight from the Mac now. Time for legwork, as you said. Good times.

     

    Thanks again JM for your altruistic support.

  • japamac Level 7 Level 7 (24,390 points)
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    Jan 17, 2013 3:15 AM (in response to Gatogreensleeves)

    Good Luck!

  • Gatogreensleeves Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 28, 2013 8:21 PM (in response to japamac)

    Got it! It was the Lynx driver that needed the update. Now it's finally time to format the new hard-drive. I still can't decide whether or not to make it journaled or not.

     

    Once it's formatted, what's the best way to move the information over? Dragging it all? Migration Assistant?

     

    Another guestion: can I put my old optical drive back in the bay hooked up, and if I do, while leaving my external OTC plugged in to FW800, which will it default to and how will I know?

     

    Thanks again!! and again and again!

  • Vernon Alexander Level 2 Level 2 (440 points)
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    Jan 28, 2013 10:59 PM (in response to Gatogreensleeves)

    Make a disk image using Disk Utilities of the drive you want to transfer.  Then use that image to create the other drive.

     

    For setting up a bootable FW drive, OSX requires extended journaled.

  • japamac Level 7 Level 7 (24,390 points)
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    Jan 29, 2013 1:59 AM (in response to Gatogreensleeves)

    I still can't decide whether or not to make it journaled or not.

    Journal it.

     

    what's the best way to move the information over? Dragging it all? Migration Assistant?

    From Tiger to Leopard? Use Migration Assistant or do it during the initial setup with the Setup Assistant.

    Apps are best not "dragged" especially if those have various plugins involved.....

  • Gatogreensleeves Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 29, 2013 3:58 AM (in response to Vernon Alexander)

    I'm going from Leopard to Leopard now. My old HD is officially upgraded. I formatted the new Seagate HD with a 2TB partition for a "Media Drive" and an 800GB partition for a "Boot Drive," both Journaled with APM. The icons are on my desktop now and all is well.

     

    So, I have one (old) HD with Leopard and all my apps on it and another (old) HD with all my media on it. It looks like I need to make a disk image of each, using Disk Utilities, then... transfer them to each appropriate partition of the new Seagate. Will it tell me how to do that? I presume to do the Leopard HD first (to the 800GB "boot drive" partition), then the media HD (to the 2TB partition). All using Migration Assistant?

  • Vernon Alexander Level 2 Level 2 (440 points)
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    Jan 29, 2013 2:19 PM (in response to Gatogreensleeves)

    If you bought a new computer and you want it to be used exactly like your old computer you can use Migration Assistant.  My last computer switchover I used Time Machine which can also do the job assuming you have a time machine backup.  Now my new computer is exactly like my old computer only a whole lot faster. 

     

    When I upgraded from a 500 gig hard drive to it a 2T drive, I made a disk image of my 500 gig so that the new drive would be an exact clone of my 500 Gig drive.

     

    Carbon Clone Copier. (Or CCC) is a simple program that makes an exact clone of one hard drive to another regardless of size difference and you can skip making a disk image.  I noticed the program is still available but I haven't used it in a long time so I can't speak to the accuracy of the program.  The reason I mention it is because it is much faster to clone one drive to another using this program.

     

    Anyway, using disk utility is another way to clone a drive. After you make a disk image (which can take hours depending on the size of the volume and the speed of your computer) you will notice it in the bottom left-hand corner underneath all of your hard drives in disk utilities. Click on the disk image and disk utility will automatically switch over to "restore".

     

    It will say, To copy a volume or restore a disk image to a volume, select the source volume or disk image, select the designation volume, and then click restore.

     

    Pretty straightforward for transferring the contents of one hard drive to another assuming that is what you're wanting to do here.

  • Gatogreensleeves Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 5, 2013 4:09 AM (in response to japamac)

    Carbon Copy Clone failed. It showed that I copied 69GB into the 800GB 'boot drive' partition I made for it (AMP- journaled) from my original boot drive with Leopard on it, but it wouldn't boot on its own. Just showed that folder icon w/ the blinking question mark, so I put the old HD back in and "erased" the 'boot drive' partition from Disk Utility to start over.

     

    Then I started to try Migration Assistant, but I don't understand it. Do I have to load Leopard onto my new HD separately first before I can use Migration Assistant (or CCC), then treat my new HD as "another computer" in Migration Assistant after it has the OS on it?

     

    Almost there,

    I really apreciate the assistance!

  • japamac Level 7 Level 7 (24,390 points)
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    Feb 5, 2013 4:30 AM (in response to Gatogreensleeves)

    A CCC boot failure is more common than many here like to admit.

    Use the free version of SuperDuper!. Bootable clones every time.

     

    As for Migration Assistant, Yes, you need Leopard (an OS) installed on the drive.

    Then, you can load data to/from "another drive on the computer" or words to that effect.

  • Gatogreensleeves Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 5, 2013 2:08 PM (in response to japamac)

    I'll try SuperDuper! Then for consolidating the 2nd HD, I'll try MA- I'm assuming I didn't see the option "another drive on the computer" because it didn't have an OS on it. Thanks again japamac. fingers crossed.

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