Currently Being ModeratedJan 29, 2013 5:08 PM (in response to gaggy)
30gig???!!!??? This is your system drive? Holy crap. That 30 gig will be fragmented all over the place.
Get 3 new drives. Back up your entire system drive on one and put it away. Move all your logic project folders onto a new drive. (NOT the Logic application file and associated folders and files. Only the project folders) (The third drive is to back up your new audio drive, as frequently as you can stand it).
Once they are safely backed up and relocated on your new drive, delete them from the internal drive of your macbook. Hopefully this will free up a large amount of space. Your computer needs elbow room on the system disk for doing it's job. The audio drive must be a firewire 800 or thunderbolt, or it may not be fast enough. Your system will work much better with the audio being handled by a separate drive.The backup drives can be USB if budget is an issue.
BUT. this may not be your problem. If you are reaching the limit of your 4 gig of ram, you can free up some memory by deleting the undo history (in the edit menu). Get to a point where you are happy, save the project, and delete undo history. Should work.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 29, 2013 5:18 PM (in response to QtheMusic)
@ QtheMusic - God bless you ...!! I've been eagerly waiting for someone to reply.. Yeah, I know .. 30GB is scaringly low and that too on a 5400 rpm.
I'm thinking of buying a Buffalo 1TB 3.0 (5400 rpm) drive, will move all my movies , pictures and other data and even the logic project files. So what'll remain on my internal (5400 rpm) HD would be my itunes library and logic app files and the AU instruments.
You're **** right about the "undo" part, I should've done that first thing... I was just wondering if buying a 7200 external HD would be any good since my mac only supports a USB 2.0 .. ??
Currently Being ModeratedJan 29, 2013 5:40 PM (in response to gaggy)
Doesn't your macbook have have firewire or thunderbolt? USB2 will be unreliable for multitrack audio on an external drive. It's theoretically kinda fast enough, but seems to work in gulps of data that doesn't suit audio. The error messages will drive you mad. Even Firewire 400 will be better.
Another option, if you have a PCI express slot would be to get an eSATA adaptor card to go in there. (OWC, or one of those brans. Usually about $40) That's faster than even Firewire 800. I have one hanging off my 2007 Macbook Pro, and it's fast enough to run very large VI Libraries. It's not hard to find external drives with eSATA ports. You have to be a bit carefull not to disturb the connection to the adaptor card too much, but it shouldn't be an issue.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 29, 2013 6:23 PM (in response to QtheMusic)
Nah ... I have a unibody white macbook which only has 2 USB ports, an ethernet port and a keningston lock...:(
So I can either upgrade the internal 5400 rpm HD to a 7200 HD which is calling for unwanted trouble (compatibility issues and all that) or I get a 5400 rpm / 7200 rpm external drive, transfer all my data except Logic App files and Au instrument files and then go from there and see how things turn out .. .
What would you suggest here ..??
Currently Being ModeratedJan 29, 2013 6:43 PM (in response to gaggy)
This error message is memory related, not disk space. You might have run out of 4GB RAM. First: update your Logic to 9.1.8 and then try switching to 64-bit to see if that fixes it.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 29, 2013 6:49 PM (in response to Blueberry)
@ Blueberry - Hey...!! Thanks for joining the conversation .. Yeah, these issues have been bothering me a while..
First, I thought it was the processor until a friend of mine who owns an imac reported a similiar issue...
Then, I thought it was the RAM so I upgraded it to the max (4GB) .. I'm not sure if i can upgrade to 8GB.. But nonetheless, I think I'll get myself an external HD and back up most of my data to free up space on my internal HD hoping that it'll work...
Any advise on this is highly appreciated ..
Currently Being ModeratedJan 29, 2013 6:50 PM (in response to gaggy)
After updating to Logic Pro 9.1.8 try 64-bit mode anyway. At that point it should no longer crash if you run out of memory, but instead becoming slower and slower. That is easier to deal with than crashes...
Currently Being ModeratedJan 29, 2013 6:56 PM (in response to Blueberry)
@ Blueberry - Yeah.. You're right ... I to be honest don't even see an option to run Logic on 64 bit... I'm hoping in addition to the free HD space helps ...
Currently Being ModeratedJan 29, 2013 6:57 PM (in response to gaggy)
Select the application in the Finder and press Command-I "Information". There is the 64-bit option.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 29, 2013 7:07 PM (in response to Blueberry)
@ Blueberry - I don't think there happens to be an option like that on Logic 9.0
So are you insisting that me upgrading Logic should sort out most of the problem ..?? Also, I was wondering, can one produce music on a white macbook with basic configuration of :
2.26 core 2 duo
4GB DDR3 RAM
I'm just in a little crunch but if things don't work out, I'll have to upgrade to an iMac ; something that I'd like to wait on for the time being ..
Currently Being ModeratedJan 29, 2013 7:08 PM (in response to gaggy)
The spec is fine and updating to the latest version might fix some of your issues and potentially others. Of course you are doing regular backups, in case something goes wrong, right?
Currently Being ModeratedJan 29, 2013 7:13 PM (in response to Blueberry)
@ Blueberry - Now that's a sigh of relief.. Yeah, I do have back ups taken so that's not an issue..
Lemme place an order for the Buffalo mini station 3.0 1TB, back up my data , cross my fingers and see how things work out then ..
Thanks a ton, I can't thank you much for taking out your time and advising me on this issue...
Currently Being ModeratedJan 29, 2013 8:30 PM (in response to gaggy)
Yes, your low memory is most likely a RAM issue. Logic 9.0 does not do 64bit. You would have to upgrade to 9.1.8 (I don't think there's a lesser option. I am running 9.1.6 and it's all working fine). If you still have only 4 gig of RAM, I'm not sure that 64 bit will make much difference. Maybe you are in a situation where every bit helps.
Regarding running the external hard drive, you have specified what kind of drive, but not how you are going to access it, which I think is the major issue. Are you planning to run it USB? This is a bad option for audio.
I upgraded the internal 5200 rpm 120 gig drive in my 2007 Macbook Pro to a 500 gig 7200 rom drive. I was offered a 750 gig and should have gone for it, but oh well. But there have been no problems. it runs much better than the original disk, and is definately fast enough for audio.
What you could do then would be to keep your current projects on the internal drive, and back them up to USB drives, and pull them back to the internal drive if you need to revisit them later. That would work much better than trying to run audio from a USB 2.0 drive.
Re upgarding RAM, this would always be a good idea, if you could do it. Especially if you want to have other apps open at the same time (Mail, Safari, Melodyne, etc). 8 gig you would certainly see a difference.
But by the time you upgrade RAM in an older machine, and upgrade the drive, you may be part of the way towards a new machine.... And if so, you would want Thunderbolt external drives, wouldn't you?