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grandpa06 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I am trying run a java applet(?) with a site.  I cannot get the java plug ins to work on any of the browsers(3).  I keep getting inactive plug-in.  I have the latest java update for Snow Leopard loaded for the Safari.  When I click on "inactive plug-in" as all the reading I have found, I am always taken to software update.  No software to update.  So,  how can I get the plug in


iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8), Safari 5.1.7, Firefox 18.0.1
  • 1. Re: inactive plug-in in all browsers with Snow leopard
    Kappy Level 10 Level 10 (226,690 points)

    What site?

  • 2. Re: inactive plug-in in all browsers with Snow leopard
    grandpa06 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    It is a local site on one of my servers.  It works on many of my other computers.  I cannot get it to work these 5 computers running snow leopard.  I can run the site on my iMac with Mountain lion.

    It is just all this crazy stuff with java.  I have tried clearing the cache, etc.

    I have had computers and have clicked on inactive plug-in and then they work.  Not these 5, they go straight to software update.  No updates.

    Odd

  • 3. Re: inactive plug-in in all browsers with Snow leopard
    Michael Wineke Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    I'm just guessing, but you may find the Java plugin stops working on more than just those 5, and very soon.

     

    Apple created a blocker a while back that is used for stopping known vulnerable software from getting a chance to exploit your machine. That is, steal yer data (passwords, contact list, financials), turn it into a "bot" machine for nefarious deeds, etc.

     

    If you are aware of the dangers of running a known vulnerable software product, you can make the decision to accept the risks or not use that software.

     

    Comparatively few end users know of any vulnerabilities in their software, in anything resembling a timely manner, and could not reasonably therefore make a rational decision about the unknown risk.

     

    Apple decided to block the current versions of the Java plugin (again), to help out.

     

    You might want to check out the vulnerability/vulnerabilities first. Read this article very carefully:

    http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/01/for-second-time-in-a-month-apple-blacklists -java-web-plug-in/

    The first paragraph is particularly important to read and understand.

  • 4. Re: inactive plug-in in all browsers with Snow leopard
    grandpa06 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yes, I have read a number of articles like this one, but in this case with the computers in question and others like this, I still need to use Java.  These are educational use computers that have no personal information.

    There must be a trick to get this turned on without going through the terminal on each computer.

    The only other solution that I can see if Apple is going to shut down(?), disable, Java on the browsers as it is strating to do, will be for the sites that to use it to move to some other protocol.

    In the meantime, teachers must get Java back on.

    I host the one program locally on  a server, so there should be no problem with Java running.

    Apple should let me control java, not them.  If I develop a protection problem, then I can disable java, if I choose.

    Rambling, here, but I need to Java on.

    Don

  • 5. Re: inactive plug-in in all browsers with Snow leopard
    Marc Monaro Level 1 Level 1 (75 points)

    Hi! YES! What's going on with this? All of the sudden all of my 10.6.8 Macs running the 1.6.0_37 version of JAVA SE 6 can't run JAVA?!? On all 3 browsers. Safari (5.1.7), Firefox (18.0.1) and Chrome (24.0.1312.57). We get the blasted 'Inactive Plug-in' error. And when we try to click on it, it automatically launches Software Update. But there's nothing in Software Update related to JAVA to updating JAVA to enable the plugin?!? Anyone know what's going on?

  • 6. Re: inactive plug-in in all browsers with Snow leopard
    ssscomp Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have a son who works at Apple. He works on the development of software for the iPhone and has absolutely nothing whatever to do with this. However I did send them a copy of some of these messages and asked him to try to forward it to whoever would be the right person. Don't have the faintest idea whether or not it will help but perhaps. We are having the absolute identical problem. As a law firm we try to log on to the New York State Worker's Compensation Board and until yesterday have always been successful and we are now running into the absolutely identical problem. This needs to be resolved quickly.

  • 7. Re: inactive plug-in in all browsers with Snow leopard
    ssscomp Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    My partner's laptop with the same setup still works. We think That the problem is she hit the "update all" on the software update and it attempted to install Java seven on her 10.6 system which will not work. When she went back to try to put in Java six bit just doesn't seem to recognize it. So, for now, when not sure if this is any kind of a solution but if you are given the option to update all of your software including the Java do not update the job. Of course if you haven't updated to Java you wouldn't be having this problem and is probably no reason in **** while you would be reading this suggestion.

  • 8. Re: inactive plug-in in all browsers with Snow leopard
    Marc Monaro Level 1 Level 1 (75 points)

    So i found that by deleting the XProtect.meta.plist file, did the trick. Only problem is, when you reboot, it puts it right back. AND... there are concerns for security. But as a temporary fix, i'll take my chances.

     

    Here's what you do...

     

    Quit out of all browsers. Using Finder, go to System - Library - CoreServices and righ-click on CoreTypes.bundle. Control + Click CoreTypes.bundle and choose Show Package Contents and then go into Contents and then the Resources folder. Scroll down to the end and look for Xprotect.meta.plist in the list and delete it.

  • 9. Re: inactive plug-in in all browsers with Snow leopard
    paulfromhendricks Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This problem just struck my MacBook Pro 10.6.8 yesterday.  Java, used on my favorite chat site, simply stopped working.  I had downloaded nothing special.  Updated nothing (to my knowledge).  Very strange.
    Thanks for disabling my chat room, Apple.

  • 10. Re: inactive plug-in in all browsers with Snow leopard
    Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,470 points)

    Thanks for disabling my chat room, Apple.

    You obviously mean 'thanks Apple for keeping me safe'

     

     

     

    Apple has barred Java from running on Macs, leaving companies that rely on Java plug-ins out in the cold.

    Apple blocked Java 7 Update 11 by adding it to the banned list in XProtect.

    This is the second time in two weeks that Apple has blocked Oracle's code from running on Macs. This time Java is blocked through Apple's XProtect anti-malware feature.

    Java has come under fire as the means by which hackers have been able to gain control of computers. In April 2012 more than 600,000 Macs were reported to have been infected with a Flashback Trojan horse that was being installed on people's computers with the help of Java exploits. Then in August Macs were again at risk due to a flaw in Java, this time around, there was good news for Mac users: Thanks to changes Apple has made, most of us were safe from the threat.

     

    Unwilling to leave its customers open to potential threats Apple has apparently decided it's safer to block Java entirely.

    Macs running OS X Snow Leopard and beyond are affected.

  • 11. Re: inactive plug-in in all browsers with Snow leopard
    grandpa06 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have to add my two cents again. I talked to an Apple tech.  Apple was forced to block the plug-in.  The Department of Homeland security was watching for all of us???

    They do want the hackers to get into our education computers that have no passwords, credit cards, etc. etc.

    So I was told that now I have to wait for Oracle to come up with the fix.  Apple will not have the fix for this last shut down of the plug-ins.  It will be coming from Oracle in a short time.  Supposedly soon next week.  If I read correctly on the Oracle site,  I do not see where they will provide a fix.  I will wait a few days and see.

    Someone other than either of these two giants I am sure will find a fix.

    :-(

    Don

  • 12. Re: inactive plug-in in all browsers with Snow leopard
    grandpa06 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Made some serious typos as I rambled.  The do not want the hackers to get into our computers.

  • 13. Re: inactive plug-in in all browsers with Snow leopard
    Trapp165 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    So is that the bottom line at this point ... I'm a bottom line kind of guy ... the website I used to use to access my company desktop from home from my mac will no longer run on my Mac due to java now being blocked by apple?  The meesage I now get is "inactive plugin" on both safari and firefox when I try to log on.  Anything I can do to get around this?  Thanks.

  • 14. Re: inactive plug-in in all browsers with Snow leopard
    Michael Wineke Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    In answer to your question, "Anything I can do to get around this?", and as you're a self-professed bottom line kind of guy, I'll just say yes.

     

    (for a slightly longer than bottom line answer:

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/21105324#21105324

     

    It should be noted that this is not a fix to the Java vulnerability in any way, and that if you don't mind the possibility that your machine and the data thereon could be compromised through the vulnerability, then you can try this workaround to the current disabled Java plugin issue.

    )

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