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Apple has blocked Java 7 Update 11 (and earlier)

10486 Views 34 Replies Latest reply: Feb 3, 2013 5:00 AM by Ken Kline RSS Branched to a new discussion.
  • Jacques LAPORTE Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Good point Shawn,

     

    There will come a time that Apple will lock Mac OS X down like they did to iOS. This will be done for security reasons, of course, to protect the user.

     

     

    With less effort and resources going into OS X, they will start trimming on the edges and Java on the Mac is on the list to go. See what has happened with Flash, it will soon happen to Java.

     

    OSX now includes a store: in the future, there would probably be no other way to install software, but buying it from the App Store.

     

    And someday, there will be no other way to create software for the Mac than 'Objective-C'.

     

    <Edited By Host>

  • woodmeister50 Level 4 Level 4 (3,690 points)

    FWIW, I have installed the latest available version you

    can get (downloaded yesterday and installed twice just

    to make sure) and Java plugins are blocked on Safari.

     

    With Firefox however, I get warnings, but still lets me

    run the applet from the websites if I choose.

     

    I think this should really be the way it should work.  Allow

    a mode to let the user choose if he or she wishes to allow

    the applet to load or have a full block mode.

     

    Let us choose!!

  • smrtapple Calculating status...

    Any idea's when Oracle is going to release u12 ?

  • Jacques LAPORTE Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 1, 2013 9:21 AM (in response to smrtapple)

    Only Oracle knows ....

     

    NB on my previous post:

     

    <Edited By Host> = PARTS CENSORED BY APPLE

    Will continue elsewhere

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (26,930 points)

    <Edited By Host> = PARTS CENSORED BY APPLE

     

    <Edited By Host> = parts in violation of the Apple Support Communities Terms of Use

  • Singrkel Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This is rediculous. EVERYTHING popular has vulernabilities. And I quote from the US-CERT...

     

    "Original release date: January 30, 2013

    Last revised: --

    Apple has released iOS 6.1 for the iPhone 3 GS and later, iPod touch 4th generation and later, and iPad 2 and later to address multiple vulnerabilities. These vulnerabilities may allow an attacker to operate with elevated privileges or execute arbitrary code."

     

    So should we burn our iPhones? Practice safe surfing and have good security and you're fine. The same warning came out in October and did Mac block it then? NO. Because the media didn't report it. Leave my computer that I paid $5,000 for alone and let ME control MY computer.

  • Shawn.Hank Calculating status...
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    Feb 1, 2013 9:33 AM (in response to Singrkel)

    "Leave my computer that I paid $5,000 for alone and let ME control MY computer."

     

    Agreed.

  • redhenrant Calculating status...

    I'm so confused about Java; I have OSX 10.8.2 but I can turn Java off and on in Safari (I think I have Java version 6.0).  I turned Java off after reading the latest warning from Apple in the newspaper today.  However, when I tried to access more information on the web about it, I couldn't see it because Java was off!  I'm not a programmer or techie; just a person who has a MAC for personal use.  Is it at all safe to use Java?  What's the alternative if Apple never supports Java?

  • smrtapple Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 1, 2013 10:22 AM (in response to Singrkel)

    I'm new to this Apple thing and have mistakenly been working on this new, Christmas present for the kids, iMac for my work while I built a new PC work station. Which given this latest hiccup, just went to the top of the "to do list".

     

    What type of security software should I be using for family iMac,daughters MacBook, boys iPad.

     

    TIA,

     

    rtk

  • ronc_laemigre Calculating status...

    Oracle has released Java7 update 13 for OS X and Windows. I wish in the future that Apple would update XProtect after the vendor updates the product rather than before. I checked the Apple Security Updates page and Java6 Update 39 is not yet available.

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (26,930 points)
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    Feb 1, 2013 12:36 PM (in response to redhenrant)

    I turned Java off after reading the latest warning from Apple in the newspaper today.  However, when I tried to access more information on the web about it, I couldn't see it because Java was off!

     

    Sounds to me like you turned off JavaScript, not just Java. The two are unrelated. JavaScript is fine, and disabling it will break many web sites.

     

    OTOH, if you only disabled Java and it broke the sites you get your news from, you need to find new sites to get your news from!

     

    As to whether Java is safe... well, Java 7 update 13 was just released and should be safe. But I would never consider any version of Java safe, given the number of times it's been punctured by hackers over the last couple years. If you don't need it, leave it disabled.

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (26,930 points)
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    Feb 1, 2013 12:37 PM (in response to smrtapple)

    What type of security software should I be using for family iMac,daughters MacBook, boys iPad.

     

    None, really. See my Mac Malware Guide.

  • delany Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Regardless of the security implications, the way Apple has handled this is completely unacceptable and seriously calls into question my business' future with Macs.  We have essentially lost a day's work because of Apple unilaterally and without warning deciding that we are unable to make our own security decisions.  I have been unhappy with Apple's nanny-ing before but remotely disabling our ability to use software that is critical to our business must border on illegal, surely.  I am just amazed at the arrogance.

  • Eric Root Level 6 Level 6 (13,810 points)
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    Feb 1, 2013 1:59 PM (in response to delany)
  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (26,930 points)
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    Feb 1, 2013 2:02 PM (in response to delany)

    Apple could certainly have handled this differently. However, you should really re-think allowing your business to be reliant on software that every security company, many tech companies and even the US Department of Homeland Security strongly recommend not using.

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