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MDD freezing problem after 12 minutes like clockwork

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Vernon Alexander Level 2 Level 2 (440 points)
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Jan 30, 2013 1:25 AM

I decided to repost this problem as no one has had my exact issue.

 

My G4 MDD freezes after 12 minutes like clockwork.

 

I have tried repairing permissions,and although it says permissions have been repaired they have not.

 

When I re-run repairs I get the same issues every time.

 

Can anyone understand this this?

 

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/PlugIns/DVD.frappliance/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/PlugIns/FRSettings.frappliance/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/PlugIns/FRSources.frappliance/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/PlugIns/Movies.frappliance/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/PlugIns/Music.frappliance/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/PlugIns/Photos.frappliance/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/PlugIns/Podcasts.frappliance/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/PlugIns/TV.frappliance/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/BackRow.framework/Versions/A/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaPluginCocoa.bundle/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-rw-r-- , they are lrw-rw-r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/RemoteDesktop.menu/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DotMacSyncManager.framework/Versions/A/_CodeS ignature/CodeResources", should be ?--------- , they are -rw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DotMacSyncManager.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/DotMacSyncHelper.app/Contents/_CodeSignature/CodeResources", should be ?--------- , they are -rw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DotMacSyncManager.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/dotmacsyncui.app/Contents/_CodeSignature/CodeResources", should be ?--------- , they are -rw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DotMacLegacy.framework/Versions/A/_CodeSignat ure/CodeResources", should be ?--------- , they are -rw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/SystemProfiler/SPDisplaysReporter.spreporter/Contents/_CodeSign ature/CodeResources", should be ?--------- , they are -rw-r--r-- .

  • japamac Level 7 Level 7 (24,390 points)

    Running Leopard? Unrepaired "repaired" permissions are as normal as the sunrise with Leopard.

     

    freezes after 12 minutes like clockwork.

    Initial boot?

    Every subsequent boot?

     

    What are the processor temps?

  • Texas Mac Man Level 8 Level 8 (44,195 points)

    Do a Safe boot (depress the Shift key at startup) and see if you also get the same 12 minute freeze. Safeboot also "fixes" some problems.

     

     Cheers, Tom

  • Allan Jones Level 7 Level 7 (29,550 points)

    Do you have any anti-virus or internet security software installed? Is any third-party backup software installed. specifically software that comes bundled with an external hard drive?

     

    The permissions issues are not usually diagnostic. Repairing permissions in 10.5 throws out a lot of garbage results that does not necessarily mean you have a problem.

     

    Finding something that happens at boot+12 is more likely found in system.log. Find System Profiler in Macintosh Hard Drive > Applications > Utilities and launch it. From the left-hand "Contents" pane, select "Logs" under the "Software" section:

     

    Screen shot 2013-01-30 at 6.56.03 PM.png

    Post a recent section of the log and perhaps we can find a culprit.

    iMac 27-in; Mid 2010 2.93G i7 Quad, Mac OS X (10.6.8), 12GB RAM; ATI5750 1G VRAM
  • Allan Jones Level 7 Level 7 (29,550 points)

    I have even booted from my OS install disk and DiskWarrior same thing happends.

     

    I'm no genius when it comes to reading logs, but that rules out one prime suspect I saw in the log:

     

    Jan 31 01:55:22 localhost kernel[0]: Added extension "com.Projovian.driver. XRackSATA16" from archive.

     

    If you boot from an optical disk, there should be no extension call, yet the results are the same. I take it you have an SATA controller card installed?

     

    This could be a problem:

     

    Jan 31 01:55:22 localhost kernel[0]: USBF:36.104[0x2e3c000] The IOUSBFamily is having trouble enumerating a USB device that has been plugged in. It will keep retrying.(Port 1 of hub @ location: 0x18100000)

     

    Disconnect all USB devices except the mouse and keyboard and see if the computer runs longer. That line could portend an issue with an external USB device or a hub.

     

    While we're at it, can you please fully describe your MDD, including any mods like overclocking, and any additional hardware like PCI cards or hard drives. This is just crazy enought that we need to know as much as possible.

    PowerMac G4 MDD 1.25G SP;, Mac OS X (10.5.8), Dual boot
  • japamac Level 7 Level 7 (24,390 points)

    I'm no genius when it comes to reading logs, but that rules out one prime suspect I saw in the log:

     

    Jan 31 01:55:22 localhost kernel[0]: Added extension "com.Projovian.driver. XRackSATA16" from archive.

    Good catch.

     

    This could be a problem:

     

    Jan 31 01:55:22 localhost kernel[0]: USBF:36.104[0x2e3c000] The IOUSBFamily is having trouble enumerating a USB device that has been plugged in. It will keep retrying.(Port 1 of hub @ location: 0x18100000)

    I also saw that one. There is definitely something connected or system USB related that is not cooperating.

     

    Jan 31 01:55:22 localhost kernel[0]: Got boot device = IOService:/MacRISC2PE/pci@f4000000/AppleMacRiscPCI/firewire@E/AppleFWOHCI/IOFir eWireController/IOFireWireDevice@10100550065edb/IOFireWireUnit/IOFireWireSBP2Ta r get/IOFireWireSBP2LUN/com_apple_driver_initio1530Bridge/IOSCSIPeripheralDeviceN u b/IOSCSIPeripheralDeviceType00/IOBlockStorageServices/IOBlockStorageDriver/DMI 6L100P0 Media/IOApplePartitionScheme/Max 1@9

    What is the boot source?

  • Allan Jones Level 7 Level 7 (29,550 points)

    Great info--lots to chew on but it's my bedtime. However:

     

    The computer has a USB 2 card with four external ports and one internal port.

     

    Look at the card and see what is printed on the largest chip. I'm hoping it says "NEC"

  • Allan Jones Level 7 Level 7 (29,550 points)

    NEC is good. That should eliminate the USB PCI card as a culprit.

     

    MDDs should use "cable select" for PATA/IDE drives. I've not messed much with SATA but I don't think they rely on master/slave setting. However, there is something to do with SATA speed that limits older Macs to a slower transfer rate with some drives.

     

    I hope japamac hops back in on this issue. He is good; he is wise. And he knows SATA

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