Currently Being ModeratedFeb 6, 2013 10:27 AM (in response to sdmeier)
Early iMac g5's had problems with capacitors, power supply, and video.
Shutdown your machine. Hold down the shift key. Poweron. Wait awhile Wait awhile while you harddrive
is being checked.
If this works fine, you need to downgrade the video driver.
I'd suspect capacitor problem. You can take it to an apple store and I hear they will advize.
Google: g5 capacitor replacement kit
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 6, 2013 2:16 PM (in response to rccharles)
Thanks for the help, unfortunatly that did not help. I looked at the capacitors and didn't see any issues, unless the guy that sold it to me, cleaned them off and pressed them back down so they werent bulging anymore, I can't see that they are bad.
Can they still be bad even though they are not showing signs of anything? And again, Why only when I doing something, I still believe if this were some sort of hardware issue, it would happen during install or during patching?
Not a good first experence with my first Apple product I hate to say. I know you get what you pay for (I only paid $200) but still, Very hard to troubleshoot and a waste of money I guess.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 6, 2013 3:03 PM (in response to sdmeier)
You can take it to an apple store and I hear what they will advise.
try a user group:
There was an extended warrenty on the 1st generation iMac g5 on the capacitor problem.
Could replace all the capacitors. What the heck. get experience with soldering.
It's the downside of the all in one design. There are less component to swap. It's the direction of computing.
Is this a black or grey machine specific disc? Could be the wrong grey disc.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 6, 2013 3:47 PM (in response to sdmeier)
Sounds like the freezes could be heat related. Open it up again and blow out as much dust everywhere as you can. Get iStat Pro widget to check the temps and fan speeds. Note the temps when it freezes. The fans kicking into high gear suggests heat issues.
Can they still be bad even though they are not showing signs of anything?
Unfortunately, yes. Would need to be tested with an ESR meter. And the caps could be bad inside the power supply. Not easy to see inside there.
If you haven't done it before, doing the soldering yourself is not recommended. Even Spudnuty, the former resident iMac G5 guru here , said he would ruin a few from time to time.
Try an SMU reset
Open up Console in Utilities and look around in the various logs for any messages from around the time of the freezes.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 6, 2013 5:07 PM (in response to WZZZ)
You are not going to believe this... It was the Mouse!!! I swapped it out and now everything is fine. I had a cheap, No Name mouse hooked to it and the wife asked if I had tried a different Keyboard and mouse... So I tried and now it's is stable.
WOW, one for the books for me, I ain't never seen a mouse cause something like that.
Thanks for everyone's help!!
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 7, 2013 2:23 PM (in response to WZZZ)
As requested... (Just to let you know, the machine has been powered off all day, so it'snot a heating problem.)
I hooked up the old mouse and within 2 Mins of use, the system locked up. I powered it off, hooked another mouse to it... No problems.
Hey, Im with ya, I have been a PC guy for 25 years and I have never seen a Mouse lock a system up, I've see a mouse fail, but not lock up the entire system.
Also, Just to let you know. The mouse has lights on the sides that light up when plugged in, I'm not saying thats why it's locking the system up, but maybe, just maybe, it's sending bad voltage back down to the system causing it to lock up.. I don't know, but I have no other explanation.
I have attached a couple of pics for you.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 7, 2013 3:04 PM (in response to sdmeier)
Thanks for the feedback. Quite interesting. I'll have to remember this one for future issues with freezing.
Here's something that would tend to agree with what you've done. I've known that peripherals can cause a variety of problems, but it's not the usual suspect for me when it comes to freezes.
Step 2: Disconnect any external devices except mouse and keyboard. Try a different keyboard and/or mouse if you have one. Also, you might try hooking up another monitor if you have one.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 8, 2013 10:14 AM (in response to sdmeier)
If the mouse stop sending signals, the system would appear to have stopped ( unless in the middle of something ) because moving the mouse would have no effect. Mouse pointer would not move. It would look like a system freeze, but really a mouse freeze.
Good diagnotics on wife's part.
Unless you know to hit keys like f10 or f11 special keys not on many keyboards, keyboard don't do much unles in text input mode.
Try mouse on anotehr system. See if it fails.
PS. Just trash the mouse & forget about it.
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