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This has been driving me nuts for years

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  • NN2RL Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 7, 2013 7:57 AM (in response to moebelli)

    No problem, Moe, I understand. Thanks for letting me know.

     

    Robb

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,450 points)
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    Feb 7, 2013 8:19 AM (in response to moebelli)

    Moe,

    don't worry about having pressed the wrng button. It may not even be your fault, see my question here.

    Buggy Buttons and Random Reputation Points: Trouble-shooting?

    Someimes the underlying software will mark the wrong post.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,450 points)
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    Feb 7, 2013 8:45 AM (in response to NN2RL)
    Now, do you have the email problem that is discussed above?

     

    Not really;

    If I have to send many images at once, I would never send them as inline images anyway; and my correspondents would be very annoyed if I did. And with only a few images to send inline, I prefer to access the Aperture library from the Photo Browser in Mail and to use the stationary forms in Mail to get a pretty layout.

     

    To send many images at once and to preserve the order, I do the the following:

    • Export the images to a folder and use an export preset that creates numbered filenames.
    • Compress the folder and send the zip file.

     

    But a few thoughts to the problem at hand - it looks like the Apple software designers simply do not think the order of images to be important. You have the same problem, when you drag images from an album to a slideshow - don't waste time on ordering the images in the source album, the order will be lost. Worse, in iPhoto albums on your IOS devices there is no way at all to arrange the sequence of images. Or if you sync your album from the mac to your handheld devices using iTunes sync the order will be lost. On IOS the albums are treated as random sets of images and not as carefully arranged sequences of images.

     

    And that is why I think it is very important to send feedback to Apple - I suspect we are not discussing an accidental bug but a software design flaw.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • NN2RL Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 7, 2013 8:56 AM (in response to léonie)

    Léonie

     

    Great answer, thank you again -- you are always spot-on and obviously highly intuitive about what problems people seem to have even though we often fail to elucidate those problems!

     

    Thank you for your many contributions and as you suggest, I will now send a feedback report on this issue.

     

    Sincerely,

     

    Robb

  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (22,760 points)
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    Feb 7, 2013 6:05 PM (in response to moebelli)

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  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,450 points)
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    Feb 8, 2013 6:16 AM (in response to moebelli)
    I don't know of a faster way to send them, than by drag and dropping them into an email or with the "share to email" button.

     

    I experimented with "Share to email" - it seems to sort by version name. If you prefix your version names with a counter email will send them in this order, but that would be more bother than to arrange them in the mail by dragging.

     

    It is not consistent across applications what will happen, when you share or sync sorted albums and events from iPhoto or Aperture. As TD said initially, in this case it is a Mail "problem".  It would help, if all Apple products would treat the sorting of shared image selections, albums, or projects in a consistent way.

    Just look at this article: iOS: Understanding photo sorting http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4221

     

    By default photos will be sorted by "date modified", sometimes like sorted in Aperture or iPhoto, or Date taken, or File name, depending on the version of IOS.

    It is much simpler, to expect a random sort and not to rely on any sorting at all.

  • NN2RL Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 8, 2013 6:31 AM (in response to léonie)

    Nice work, Leonie, thanks for this info.  Seems that Apple missed this in the updates...hmmm...or maybe it was not important to them at the time.  Knowing this tidbit will indeed reduce the 'grief' factor in my work!

     

    Robb

  • apatriot Calculating status...
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    Feb 9, 2013 10:07 PM (in response to moebelli)

    To those of us who are struggling with the order of images in e-mail, I think Leonie is correct in that we need to send Feedback to Apple.  If they get enough noise about the problem perhaps they will do something.  My feedback has been sent to them. 

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