Currently Being ModeratedJan 30, 2012 11:11 PM (in response to HawaiianHippie)
Could you try these devices with other macs or PCs? As you describe it, it seems the controllers of those devices are the problem. Alternatively, the power supply of you fw port is below standard, which is possible, but extremely uncommon. Does any device take power from the fw port? (do they have their independent power supply or take from the fw port?)
Currently Being ModeratedJan 30, 2012 11:23 PM (in response to Cattus Thraex)
I have tried the hub with other Macs, and other hubs with this mini. The problem was unique to this one mini.
The hub does have an option for an external power supply. When in use with other computers, including an identical model mini, it isn't needed. However, I did hook it up, and the problem remained unresolved.
The G-SAFE RAID has its own power supply. The other drives I use draw power from the FW port.
I took the mini down to my local Apple Genius Bar this evening. And, of course, it worked perfectly. The hub functioned as expected, and drives attached to it mounted properly. The genius suggested that it may be my power cable. It took some willpower not to laugh at that.
I'll put it back in service tomorrow and see what there is to see.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 30, 2012 11:53 PM (in response to HawaiianHippie)
Quite clear: try to test it with other minis, my guess it will be the same behavior. My interim conclusion is that minis do not offer sufficient intensity for a hub to take power from it. The problem may not occur with fw hubs having a power source.
It is the same with the more common USB hubs and USB bus-powered peripherials. Some external disks have a Y-shaped USB cable, the 3rd plug to be used in case the computer cannot offer sufficient power for the disk. This happens, for ex., with older hard disks in older enclosures used with, say, my 2004 Powerbook, otherwise that 3rd plug is not necessary.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 31, 2012 11:48 AM (in response to Cattus Thraex)
Same hub with different mini: works as expected
Different hub with radio station mini: also does not function
Adding power source to FW hub: still does not function with radio station mini.
Then it gets weird.... I took the mini and the hub to the nearest Apple Genius Bar. And, you guessed it, the hub worked flawlessly, without the power supply. But when I returned to the radio station and put it back into service... well, the problem had returned. So now I'm pondering environmental causes. The UPS that powers the mini reads 117 volts, which should be sufficient, if it is to be believed.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 2, 2012 7:37 PM (in response to HawaiianHippie)
I know this will sound strange - but did you try connecting the power for the hub directly to an outlet bypassing the UPS - also have you tried swaping UPS with the working mac mini etc?
I have heard that some UPS's can cause issues - it might be worth a shot since you indicated that all worked fine at the apple store - sans USP.....
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 5, 2013 10:05 PM (in response to HawaiianHippie)
Oddly, I am having the same issue with my brand new late 2012 Mac Mini 2.5 i5Ghz. I will get this out of the way and say, it still have not found a way for it to start working. Why I'm adding a post here is to also highlight that — I too went to the Genius Bar today and, suddenly it worked. Brought it home.. NOTHING! I'm runnning an old LaCie 600Gb Big Disk Extreme EXT Drive w/Triple Interface. Whether it's alone or daisy chained to my other FW 400 drive it does not want to mount. Yet, I unplug it and put in my 2007 MBP.. she mounts instantly.
I have done the unusual SMC reset and zapped the PRAM, unplugged my mini for 12 hrs .. its been perplaxing.
I've ordered a new FW 800/800 9-pin cable to rule that out. If it still doesnt work. Perhaps the drive needs to be repartitoned with a different RAID0 setting.
..just though I'd share..
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 9, 2013 12:31 PM (in response to HawaiianHippie)
Alright , its official. A new firewire cable has made my EXTernal hardrive work now; connected to my late 2012 mac mini. Why the Genius' at Apple didnt catch this fix seems strange. Anyway, the cable was the fix for me. Hope its that easy for the rest o you.