11 Replies Latest reply: Feb 15, 2013 7:40 PM by canadanada
canadanada Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I experienced same problem as discussed a year ago , but don't understand all the lingo used for solutions.

reference to Jo Booth >> When I looked at the name, it had captured it as  Untitled-av.mov.  These two captures were within 10 minutes of each other and I didn't change any of the settings.  I've tried a different tape and same thing happens and I've rebooted the computer .<<

 

I have many Quick time movies from last 2-3 years saved on external drive. Some of them I can open, some of them come with this -av.mov andwhen I click on it  it says "format not recognized". These movies were stored  for several years before and were always accesible before. What can I do to be able to open them?

Thanks

Nada


iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.2), Final Cut Express
  • 1. Re: Untitled-av.mov
    Alchroma Level 6 Level 6 (17,195 points)

    Is the drive where these are stored formatted to MAC OS Extended?

     

    Al

  • 2. Re: Untitled-av.mov
    canadanada Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks Al, Yes it is.

     

    details:

    Mac OS Extended (Journaled)

    1 TB

    16.88 GB

    983,318,134,784 bytes (983.32 GB on disk)

  • 3. Re: Untitled-av.mov
    canadanada Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I am wondering now how does it matter if it is or not Mac OS Extended drive? Would you be ableto give me some instruction on how to access these files? Thanks a lot.

    Nada

  • 4. Re: Untitled-av.mov
    Alchroma Level 6 Level 6 (17,195 points)

    This -av.mov occurs when file size max out and the operating system, application or settings break up one big file into pieces.

     

    The result is a group of -av files.

     

    My experience with this issue is to try find one in the group that starts with 0-av.mov.

    The 0 file is like the key, if it plays first the rest may work, trying to play a later one in the chain won't work.

     

    Right now we need to establish what and why the files are split.

     

    Please provide as many details as possible about your files, computer and how the files arrived into FCE.

     

    Al

  • 5. Re: Untitled-av.mov
    canadanada Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you Al so far.

    I am not sure why is it important how the files came into FCE, because the files were edited in FCE and then exported to Quicktime. Originally these QT files were all o.k. in my external drive.

     

    I was looking for a particular QT  which I exported as "Carrying forward" and as I could not find it, I typed  its name in "search" and it took me into Capture scratch. There I found all my QT movies. A 15 minute one is complete, others are either chopped into small pieces, but accesible, but all lost their names and all are called Untitled. They used to have their proper rnames before.

     

    Then I also put in search "QuickTime movie" - and there I found all kinds of things

    - I found my full length .mov  most of them, but not all

    - Q logo and Cache.mov which open, show the length and don't have anything on them(black)

    - Q logo and Cache.mov that say "unrendered"

    - Q with CF+dvc and some numbers and unrendered

    - untitled accesible clips, and those that have -av and therefore unaccesible

    - lots and lotsof clip - with date and length accessible and visible

    - GOPRO number.mov

    - Sequence picture but no sound, short pieces, also some unrendered

    - Q logo Sequence with sound no picture

    - Sequence-FIN-number picture but no sound

    - Q logo Sequence-ITM-number

    - Untitled - whole bunch of full length (some close to 2 hours) and some just short clips fewseconds

    - Untitled.mov accesible

    - Q logo untitled numer -av 113 of these. They are usually following with preceding "untitled" with the same number (= for instance untitled 108 followed by Q 108 -1-av

     

    Maybe enough or too much information for tonight.

     

    Is there any reason that something like that hapens. Would Thank you for your help.

    Nada

  • 6. Re: Untitled-av.mov
    Alchroma Level 6 Level 6 (17,195 points)

    canadanada wrote:

     

    I am wondering now how does it matter if it is or not Mac OS Extended drive? Would you be ableto give me some instruction on how to access these files? Thanks a lot.

    Nada

     

    Yes it does matter.

    If a drive is not formatted correctly it will break up large files into smaller ones because it will have a file size limit. Mac OS Extended removes limits.

     

    Also FCE in the Preferences has an Export file size limit checkbox that can be set to export in samll chunks which is legacy to work with older formats. This box/field should have no Limits set using Mac OS Extended drives.

     

    Q Logo; What is this?

    I'm thinking an app that handles some type of video file!!

     

    Do you have GoPro footage on this drive?

     

    Untitled coud be anything including FCE capture files/Sequence or Projects. Always a good idea to give things a unique name. You say the NAMES were changed somehow?? Any ideas what you did or something that was altered around the time of this mixup?

     

    Sequence-Fin, these are FCE Render files.

     

    "I am not sure why is it important how the files came into FCE, because the files were edited in FCE and then exported to Quicktime."

     

    Knowing how and where files comes from help with troubleshooting an issue. If for example they were imported from a camera then knowing the model and make of the camera can narrow the types of footage used. If from the Internet, could be anything.

     

    Open Quicktime and play some files and use the Inspector to see what the specs are.

     

    Al

  • 7. Re: Untitled-av.mov
    canadanada Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks Al,

     

    Q Logo; What is this?

    It is logo for QuickTime (blue Q)

     

    Do you have GoPro footage on this drive?

     

    Yes

     

    Untitled coud be anything including FCE capture files/Sequence or Projects. Always a good idea to give things a unique name. You say the NAMES were changed somehow?? Any ideas what you did or something that was altered around the time of this mixup?

     

    All these files HAD names - but they  disappeared - they became "untitled" and chopped in small pieces?

     

    Knowing how and where files comes from help with troubleshooting an issue. If for example they were imported from a camera then knowing the model and make of the camera can narrow the types of footage used. If from the Internet, could be anything.

     

    Most of my footage is imported from Canon ZR 960 camera. The only new footage would be from GoPro camera and Sony Cyber-shot DSC-HX 100/HX/100V photo camera

     

    Quicktime inspector:

    Source: /Volumes/NADA's /Gene in Japan/A communique to Focusers in Japan Nada Lou Productions.mov

    Format:

    DV/DVCPRO - NTSC, 720 x 480 (640 x 480)

    Linear PCM, 16 bit little-endian signed integer, 2 channels, 48000 Hz

    FPS: 29.97

    Data size: 3.43 GB

    Data rate: 30.31 Mbit/s

    Current size: 640 × 480

     

    This clip is 15:03 minutes.

     

    Do you think I lost these other QuickTime movies?

    Thank you.

     


  • 8. Re: Untitled-av.mov
    Alchroma Level 6 Level 6 (17,195 points)

    To be honest I'm not sure what has occured.

    We have covered the usual suspects.

     

    I'm starting to think that mabe a third party app has been loaded and grabbed all the Quicktime files and is now the default app that handles Quicktime.

     

    Do you have any third party apps loaded such as a player for the GoPro?

     

    Al

  • 9. Re: Untitled-av.mov
    canadanada Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you Al

     

    One suspect could be -  I usually take my new DVDs  for mastering and duplicating to a company I deal with all the time. Recently I had a VHS tape transfered into Quicktime file and I took my external drive to them to put the file (2 hours) on the external drive. The guy who did it had some problem transferring it (he is also on PC) - this was the first time that he was putting something on rather than taking my file from it. What he needed to do I am not sure and after some attempts he was able to upload it on my external disk. Could there be something??

     

    Another suspect could be - my grandson who is studying film, occasionally uses my computer. I do not know if he could have uploaded something.

     

    Is there a way to look for something on my comuter, or the drive, or better solution (for future) would be to invest into new external drive?

     

    Thank you so much for your work onthis case.

    Nada

  • 10. Re: Untitled-av.mov
    Alchroma Level 6 Level 6 (17,195 points)

    The guy who did it had some problem transferring it (he is also on PC) - this was the first time that he was putting something on rather than taking my file from it. What he needed to do I am not sure and after some attempts he was able to upload it on my external disk. Could there be something??

     

    This would be my first suspect.

     

     

    You can ask the guy what exactly he did. It does seem like the drive has been affected by a non MAC OS Extended structure.

     

    You never know what the Gransdson could have done.

    I'd suggest you password your main Admin Account and let others log on as a Guest User or create a "Grandson Account".

    This way your stuff is/should be safe.

     

    Al

  • 11. Re: Untitled-av.mov
    canadanada Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi Al, I think I got to the bottom of this. I remembered now that because I could not find Quicktime for my DVD  "Carrying forward"   I used Wondershare DVD ripper to import part of it from DVD. I am not very experienced with Wondershare and I might have the settings on it in such away that the footage would got broken into small pieces.

     

    Thank you for walking with me through all this. It turns out that it is smaller problem than I was pannicking about.

    Thanks - till next time!