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Tigervision Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

Hi all.

 

I have an iphoto library.  I'll often import hundreds of pics at a time.  I go through and delete bad pics I don't want.

i.e. I put pics in trash and then empty trash.  I do try not to put more than 100 in trash at any one time before emptying.  Sometimes there is more that than.  But I do empty trash frequently from iphoto.

 

To my surprise, I went into my computer/pictures/  Saw my library.  Right clicked and show package contents.

I looked in the masters folder....

 

EVERY PICTURE IS THERE.   Including hundreds of ones I have 'deleted'.

They don't show in my events in Iphoto... but there are there 'behnid the scenes I guess'.

 

What is going on???

 

Any explaination would be greately appreciated.


MacBookPro
  • 1. Re: Why does iphoto really never delete a photo?  Can someone explain.
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,665 points)

    Sound like a damage library.  Try this:  launch iPhoto with the Option key held down and create a new, test library.  Import some photos and check to see if the same problem persists.

     

    If it does Try the following:

     

    1 - delete the iPhoto preference file, com.apple.iPhoto.plist, that resides in your

         User/Home/Library/ Preferences folder.

     

    2 - delete iPhoto's cache file, Cache.db, that is located in your

    User/Home/Library/Caches/com.apple.iPhoto folder (Snow Leopard and Earlier).

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    or with Mt. Lion from the User/Library/Containers/com.apple.iPhoto/
    Data/Library/Caches/com.apple.iPhoto
    folder

     

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    3 - launch iPhoto and try again.

     

    NOTE: If you're moved your library from its default location in your Home/Pictures folder you will have to point iPhoto to its new location when you next open iPhoto by holding down the Option key when launching iPhoto.  You'll also have to reset the iPhoto's various preferences.

     

    NOTE 2:  In Lion and Mountain Lion the Library folder is now invisible. To make it permanently visible enter the following in the Terminal application window: chflags nohidden ~/Library and hit the Enter button - 10.7: Un-hide the User Library folder.

     

     

    OT

  • 2. Re: Why does iphoto really never delete a photo?  Can someone explain.
    Tigervision Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Thanks OT.

    I created a new test library.  Put in 6 pics.  Went to masters.  All 6 were there.  Deleted 5 of them.  Went back. And indeed only 1 pic was there now.

     

    So now I have a few questions.

     

    1. I don't see the path's above.  I don't see a Library folder.  I don't understand what it means to enter that string in a terminal application window?  What is that?  How do you do that (i.e. where is a terminal application window?).

     

    2. I have 7 different iphoto libraries.  If I were to delete those preference or cache files, will it apply to all libraries??  Will it mess them up?

     

    3. If the answer to #2. above is that it is safe, then will it just start working fine from then on?  i.e. those old pictures that have not been deleted will remain, but new ones I delete will be deleted?

     

    Thanks very much.

    j

  • 3. Re: Why does iphoto really never delete a photo?  Can someone explain.
    Tigervision Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Update... so I put in 3 photos to my current library.  I looked, all three in master.  I deleted 2.  Looked again and only 1 there.  But I looked from earlier today.  I added 200 pics.  I only kept 58 of them in iphoto.  In that master there are all 200 of them.  But only 58 show up in the library in iphoto (the ones I want).

     

    So it is working... only sometimes.

     

    Man, I'm telling you.... I am begining to lose faith in iPhoto....

     

    I have a hard time believing that all the experts like you OT (and TD and LH, etc)... don't have one pic in your master that shouldn't be there.  Is that even possible?

     

    Also, in this library in question, I started in in Jan 2013.  It only has 495 pics!  It isn't like it is a huge library that I have been using for years.

     

    I don't get it.

  • 4. Re: Why does iphoto really never delete a photo?  Can someone explain.
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,665 points)

    1 - Open the Terminal application and enter chflags nohidden ~/Library followed by a return.  Then look in your Home folder for the Library folder.

     

    2 - deleting the iPhoto preference file applies to all libraries.  You will need to launch iPhoto with the Option key held down to select the library you want to open.

     

    3 - no guarantee.  If the problem is a damaged preference file then it will start working OK.  If it's a damage library there are other fixes we'll have to apply.

     

    There is a method that should give you a new library with only the visible photos in the library. It's non destructive so if it doesn't produce the results you want you can delete the new library and continue with your current one:

     

    Using iPhoto Library Manager  to Rebuild Your iPhoto Library

     

      1. Download iPhoto Library Manager and launch.
      2. Click on the Add Library button,

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        navigate to your Home/Pictures folder and select your iPhoto Library folder.

      3. Now that the library is listed in the left hand pane of iPLM, click on your library and go to the Library ➙ Rebuild Library menu option

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      4. In the next  window name the new library and select the location you want it to be placed.
      5. Click on the Create button.

     

    Note: This creates a new library based on the LIbraryData.xml file in the library and will recover Events, Albums, keywords, titles and comments. However, books, calendars, cards and slideshows will be lost. The original library will be left untouched for further attempts at fixing the problem or in case the rebuilt library is not satisfactory.

  • 5. Re: Why does iphoto really never delete a photo?  Can someone explain.
    Tigervision Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Thanks again OT.

    I am sorry for being so incompetent... but what is the Terminal application?  I don't get what that is.

     

    Another thing. I just went into the masters.  Deleted a photo.  And then opened up iphoto... that photo is still there???

     

    I think I will try your rebuilding idea first.

     

    Thanks.

    j

  • 6. Re: Why does iphoto really never delete a photo?  Can someone explain.
    Tigervision Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    OT..

    I had a library called 2013.

    I did a rebuild.

    I now see 2013 Rebuild and TWO libraires called 2013.

     

    There is ONLY ONE in the pictures folder.

     

    Please help.

     

    j

  • 7. Re: Why does iphoto really never delete a photo?  Can someone explain.
    Tigervision Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    I created a new test album, and it forced the recalculation of the libraries that show up when holding down opitions.  At least the duplicates were not there.

     

    My rebuilt library has the correct photos ONLY in it.

     

    So my previous 2013 library is 4 gigs.  My rebuilt is 2gigs.

     

    This means some files were not being deleted as I suspected.

     

    Not sure what all this means.

     

    thanks.

  • 8. Re: Why does iphoto really never delete a photo?  Can someone explain.
    Tigervision Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Put 50 pics in my new rebuilt album.  Deleted 46 of them.  Masters still shows all 50.  Even after I deleted them from iphoto.

     

    WT Heck man?

  • 9. Re: Why does iphoto really never delete a photo?  Can someone explain.
    Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (123,770 points)

    It's quite simple: If you have a Managed Library then to delete a photo from iPhoto and the HD you simply put the Photo in the iPhoto trash, then empty it.

     

    If you have iPhoto 11, then there is the additional step of emptying the System trash.

     

    If that doesn't work, then you have a corrupted library, and you need to investigate why that keeps happening.

  • 10. Re: Why does iphoto really never delete a photo?  Can someone explain.
    Tigervision Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Thanks TD.  So I do have Iphoto 11 (9.4.2).

    I put photos in trash within iphoto.  I empty the trash from iphoto.

     

    Sometimes they are moved to the trash (i.e. there is a iphoto folder in my system trash with pics in it).... and sometimes they are not moved to the trash.

     

    It is inconsistent.  I don't understand why the inconsistency.

     

    Any thoughts are appreciated on to why this inconsistency is happening.

     

    j

  • 11. Re: Why does iphoto really never delete a photo?  Can someone explain.
    Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (123,770 points)

    Because you're library is corrupted. Where is it stored?

  • 12. Re: Why does iphoto really never delete a photo?  Can someone explain.
    Tigervision Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Stored on my HD.

    Not sure how it can be corrupted.  Just created less than 2 months ago.  Only has 495 pics in it.

     

    I don't get it

     

    j.

  • 13. Re: Why does iphoto really never delete a photo?  Can someone explain.
    Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (123,770 points)

    Do you find iPhoto crashes a lot?

  • 14. Re: Why does iphoto really never delete a photo?  Can someone explain.
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,665 points)

    The Terminal application is located in the Applications/Utilities folder.  You can do a Spotlight search for it and double click on Terminal in Spotlight to open it.

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