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10.4.6 AFP issues?

1013 Views 14 Replies Latest reply: May 9, 2006 9:50 AM by Vipir RSS
Vipir Level 3 Level 3 (745 points)
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Apr 12, 2006 5:58 AM
Here's something that came across my desk a few days ago. . . Sort of "The Nail of Truth".

HELIOS TechInfo #099
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Wed, 06 Apr 2006
Mac OS X to 10.4.6 Upgrade Warning
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The Apple Mac OS X client upgrade to 10.4.6 introduces several problems which have been reported by customers and reproduced by HELIOS. We strongly recommend not to upgrade to 10.4.6 until a solution for the following problems is available:

1. Some files and folders may be locked within the 10.4.6 Finder The 10.4.6 Finder uses the FinderInfo information to detect locked files and folders. The original behavior on Mac OS 8/9 was that the locked file content could be changed and the locked file/folder not be renamed/deleted. Somehow the OS X 10.4.6 shows a read-only icon for a
locked folder and does not allow to save files and folders ithin this locked folder.

Workaround:
The FinderInfo locked information can be displayed with "dt ls -l". A workaround is to unlock the locked files/folders via the following dt commands.

$ dt set a-l foldername or filename

The problem occurs with Apple based AFP servers as well with HELIOS AFP servers. The workaround using the dt tools is only available using when HELIOS products.

2. Photoshop crashes when saving on AFP network volumes
The problem occurs with Apple based AFP servers as well with HELIOS AFP servers. HELIOS can reproduce this problem with PhotoShop 7, CS, CS2.

Best regards,
HELIOS Support

HELIOS Software GmbH
Steinriede 3
30827 Garbsen (Hannover)
Germany
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  • a brody Level 9 Level 9 (62,010 points)
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    Apr 12, 2006 6:09 AM (in response to Vipir)
    If there is a link on Helios's website to this technote, please find that, and post it. You might want to submit it to Adobe support as well.
    iMac G5-1.8 (1st Gen), Powerbook G4 17" 3rd Gen 1.5 Ghz, iMac G4 w/OS 9, Mac OS X (10.4.6), EyeTV 200, Olympus C-700, Epson P-R220, iSight, Airport Extreme, 5th Gen iPod
  • a brody Level 9 Level 9 (62,010 points)
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    Apr 12, 2006 6:31 AM (in response to Vipir)
    Thank you. And I should say danke to Helios!

    Hopefully Helios is working with Apple on fixing this issue.
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  • woodsy Level 4 Level 4 (1,150 points)
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    Apr 12, 2006 7:04 AM (in response to Vipir)
    What is this <pre>dt</pre> command? It isn't in the OSX distro.
    Mac OS X (10.4.4)
  • a brody Level 9 Level 9 (62,010 points)
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    Apr 12, 2006 7:24 AM (in response to woodsy)
    Good point. Wonder if this is a command enabled by installing one of their products? I'll e-mail them and find out.

    Edit: I'm not at my Mac OS X machine right now, though I looked up the man pages here, and saw what you meant by it not being there -

    http://www.osxfaq.com/man/index/D.ws
    iMac G5-1.8 (1st Gen), Powerbook G4 17" 3rd Gen 1.5 Ghz, iMac G4 w/OS 9, Mac OS X (10.4.6), EyeTV 200, Olympus C-700, Epson P-R220, iSight, Airport Extreme, 5th Gen iPod
  • a brody Level 9 Level 9 (62,010 points)
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    Apr 12, 2006 9:37 AM (in response to Vipir)
    Photoshop writes comments to the server, usually over 128 or 200 characters (depends on what file format is used)


    Reading over that carefully makes me wonder if this is only
    an issue with TIFF and RAW files that have extra long RAW data? Or is this happening to files with no metadata whatsoever?
    iMac G5-1.8 (1st Gen), Powerbook G4 17" 3rd Gen 1.5 Ghz, iMac G4 w/OS 9, Mac OS X (10.4.6), EyeTV 200, Olympus C-700, Epson P-R220, iSight, Airport Extreme, 5th Gen iPod
  • Jrsy Man Level 4 Level 4 (1,890 points)
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    Apr 12, 2006 10:05 AM (in response to woodsy)
    Workaround:
    The FinderInfo locked information can be displayed with "dt ls -l". A workaround is to unlock the locked files/folders via the following dt commands.

    $ dt set a-l foldername or filename

    The problem occurs with Apple based AFP servers as well with HELIOS AFP servers. The workaround using the dt tools is only available using when HELIOS products.



    dt = desktop tools


    Jrsy
    60GB iPod w/ video | PowerBook G4: 1.67, 1.5GRAM, 64VRAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive |, Mac OS X (10.4.6), To acquire knowledge, one must study; but to acquire wisdom, one must observe.
  • a brody Level 9 Level 9 (62,010 points)
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    Apr 12, 2006 10:24 AM (in response to Jrsy Man)
    Thank you Jrsy Man,
    I see it now in Vipir's initial post. Easy to miss if you aren't looking for it!
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  • Jrsy Man Level 4 Level 4 (1,890 points)
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    Apr 12, 2006 10:27 AM (in response to a brody)
    Yeah, I caught that when I re-read it again... ; )
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  • Mitch Level 4 Level 4 (1,340 points)
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    Apr 26, 2006 4:39 AM (in response to Vipir)
    Helios has put out an update I think as of 20th April for the 10.4.6 issue.

    I've had to make other arrangements (change back AppleShare to 10.4.5), as I couldn't wait for our Unix admin people to put on the patch and restart the service.

    Mitch
    G4 Dual 1.25 GHz-1.5 Gb RAM 200+Gb Storage + Powerbook + Dell Laptop, Mac OS X (10.4.6), Plus over 1 TB of storage
  • Stilgar Calculating status...
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    May 5, 2006 11:17 AM (in response to Mitch)
    Everyone is treating it as a problem that needs solution, right?
    Wrong! That`s why we don`t have a fix from Apple until now!
    Doesn`t seem strange that all problems appear as once after updated!?

    Apple (and maybe adobe too) do not want us to use AFP anymore!
    Simple as that! AFP is old and limited.

    MAC OS X works just fine BY SMB, native TCP-IP Windows Server format. Except for the files already copied by AFP!

    Soo, what about my MAC files with icons that desappear in SMB volumes!!???

    If you start creating and copying your files to server by SMB you can read them with no problem BY SMB.
    BUT, if you created them by AFP you have to copy them all to local disks using AFP e then return them to the server by SMB.

    Because of that my company is migrating all server files to SMB. Its is a lot of work but it solves all our problems once for all.

    I Just think that Apple could be more honest with us.
    Thank you.
    Mac G4 - Tiger, Mac OS X (10.4.5)
  • JammyU Calculating status...
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    May 9, 2006 7:40 AM (in response to Stilgar)
    Hi,

    Im new here but we are experiencing these same AFP problems. Going to SMB is fine but it takes 4 or 5 times longer to save files with SMB than it does with AFP. Especially on 10.4.6!

    Jammy.

      Mac OS X (10.4.6)  

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